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Lloyd - all the early American machine made SxS's didn't have draw bolts through the stocks. At least my Remingtons and Parkers don't. Their stocks aren't thick. And for handling - I think they all balance and shoot just fine. The parts for the above mentioned may have been mass produced, but they were all hand fitted to each gun made. IMHO, the parts being " rough finish mass produced " allowed the local gunsmith to order a part and with a little hand fitting could make it work. All the " machine made " parts did was allow the gun to be made more economically. Paul
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Brittany Man, The Photo you speak of"Purdey Action Filer is of Jim Rogers, I was standing with my Gaffer' Bill O'Brien who took the photo. I used the "pic" in my Shotgun Technicana Book. Last Jan. Bob Dollimore Former Ejectorman @ JP&S. Now living in New Zealand, sent me a couple of photos of Jim Rogers's Hand-Drill with the leather thong thats in the picture.I could add quite a lot on the subject of "Hand made, (Built) guns and DB rifles.....I'm looking for the "Right Person" to give all the old Gunmaking tools that Myself and all the"Dead Buggers who left with me boxes of their Stuff,maybe some Younger'person might want to try their hand at some "Hand-Made" Gun-Parts......C/C trevallion. Will be seeing Robert Dollimore next week, he is still busy as always last I spoke to him. GDU.
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Mr. Harm: You're right. Most of the better American guns (pre-WWII) didn't. Probably why they are now considered "classic". Almost all of the more modern guns utilize drawbolts as a means of controlling costs. Some are even made without a human hand ever touching them, start to finish. CNC controlled machine work and lazer engraved. Even the checkering is done by computer-controlled lazers.
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Maybe the better difference would be mass produced for the hardware store shelf with a standard LOP, DAH, DAC, cast on, cast off, as opposed to HAND fitted to the specific customer and his build and his shooting style.
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Local airport fellow has a nice collection of Warbirds. Both Spitfires and P51's He says the largely hand fitted Rolls Royce Merlin Engine was built under license by Packard on American assembly lines for the P 51 Mustang.
Story he tells is the Brits said mass production would not work. Now most say the Packard Built engine was much better than the Roller.
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The Packard engine probably didn't have Lucas ignition. 
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The Packard engine probably didn't have Lucas ignition. Having owned several vintage British cars and motorcycles in my youth, I got to know old Lucas, the Prince of Darkness very well! Steve
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