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VL&D #319329 03/28/13 08:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 94 Alaska Clay N Feathers OP Sidelock
OP Clay N Feathers Sidelock Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 94 Alaska	I notice on some Francotte shotguns they are listed as a VL&D guns. What does the VL&D mean?

Re: VL&D Clay N Feathers #319331 03/28/13 08:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,837 Likes: 499 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,837 Likes: 499 AZ but dreaming of KS	Von Lengerke & Detmold (and Abercrombie & Fitch) sales records exist, and a research letter can be requested from a frequent contributor here http://www.griffinhowe.com/research-main.cfm https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: VL&D Clay N Feathers #319348 03/29/13 06:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,574 Likes: 167 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,574 Likes: 167 Iowa	Basically, VL&D means that a Francotte (or any other gun so marked) was a pre-1930 import.

Re: VL&D L. Brown #319441 03/29/13 08:42 PM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 94 Alaska Clay N Feathers OP Sidelock
OP Clay N Feathers Sidelock Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 94 Alaska	Thanks guys.

Re: VL&D Clay N Feathers #319458 03/29/13 11:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,417 South Carolina George L. Sidelock
George L. Sidelock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,417 South Carolina	Von Lengerk and Detmold was a sporting goods dealer in New York in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Von Lengerk and Antoine was their counterpart in Chicago. The companies were bought out by Abercrombie & Fitch. The records are now with Griffen & Howe. Best Regards, George To see my guns go to www.mylandco.com Select "SPORTING GUNS " My E-Mail palmettotreasure@aol.com

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