Let me be clear about this. No one was saying you couldn't do it with YOUR OWN guns. I did say I couldn't do it with either of MY boxlocks (both auto safety guns). Patriots first post was vague enough that it left two of us scratching our heads. He corrected it. Thanks for that.
The Uggy safety will have nothing to do with being moved off when the gun is open. The lever does not latch open. The Tobin lever can be snapped as described earlier and moved to center with the gun open, but, the triggers aren't interested in moving after that has happened-on mine, one can see the triggers moving forward when the safety is engaged and dropping back as the safety is disengaged, when the gun is closed. This is the only Tobin I've ever owned with an auto safety, and I don't have any of the others around anymore to look at.
I'm guessing there is a trigger interference with the lockwork, via the cocking cams, when my Tobin is open. The gun is at least 100 years old, and has been restocked, and although all seems well, perhaps something internally is amiss. Both the main springs and the hammers have rollers built into the ends, leading me to believe that someone thought there was too much friction in the design for them to be left out. The point is fairly moot as I do own a nice pair of 16 gauge CSMC nickel plated snap caps for that old girl, and they are at least as smart as the gun...


Best,
Ted