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I don't see anything there relating to Vienna or Ferlach. As for a buttplate, this gun would undoubtedly be shod with a horn butt plate and you can probably find one large enough to fit it yourself. Probably need to plug old screw holes in butt and re-drill. Galazan may have some horn butts or just look around at a larger gun show. These plates typically had a few lines of horizonal grooves across the center of the plate with both the toe and heel smooth. If you get a blank it isn't hard to fit it and file in the grooves.

Thanks Jerry. Might know where I could get an example picture of what an original one might have looked like? Just plain black plastic with the lines you described?

Google Galazans website, in the search box put buttplates and the first one on the search results which is for a Fox shotgun is typical.

If you want to be correct, look for the horn, not the plastic. Horn was the plastic of that generation.

chevypilot,
see my comments on the GGCA site.
Mike

This sporting weapon never passed thru any of the Austro-Hungarian proofhouses. And as far as I have seen, Emil Kerner did not have a Zella-Mehlis address so the probability of it passing thru the Z-M facility is quite small. I would expect to see a date-code on it if it did. Like I said this is a F.W. Ke�ler sourced hammergun, or components and it maybe that there is a K on the tube above the crown over S or it could be a H. Compare it to the F.W. Ke�ler Hahndoppelflinte. The stylized S you note is probably for a Schilling mechanic as the tail strikes back across the S but many times there is a brace. Is there a monogram on the left side of the aft lug or on the standing breech? The P mechanic probably supplied the forend hanger components.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Thanks again Ellenbr. Unfortunately, there are no marks on the breech or lugs.

Hum, the single letter on the tubes looks to be a K. Single letters are difficult to pin down but it could be for Ke�ler, Klett, Krieghoff. Many say that too much water has passed under the bridge and we'll never know but I for one am not of that opinion. The vine engraving makes me think of Richard Keller but Hendrik should be able to put us on the straight and narrow.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Note the brace of Ss.



Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Very nice, thank you.