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Sirs, in your experience, what would be a good period correct scope, with good eye relief, say, 1.5 to 6x, that would withstand the recoil of a 458 Win. Mag. ? The rifle was made in 1983.
Let me add, I currently have an old made in El Paso, TX Weaver, K 2.5 fixed with fine crosshair. It is 10 3/8" overall and has a 20mm objective lens, but I don't know if it will hold up to the recoil.
Last edited by RedofTx; 05/18/13 12:13 PM. Reason: added Weaver info.
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2.5 El Paso Weaver is a very good game scope. You may want to get the reticule changed Mine has a 4 moa Lee dot. Probably 90 % chance 80's Winchester would have carried a Weaver
Cheap enough used if the .458 knocks it apart you can buy another. My guess is it's stronger than the average modern Asian made scope.
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I have found the ''old'' Leupold 3 power to be outstanding in this area... very good eye-relief, good field of view and very reliable under recoil. i understand their custom scope is making them again and would only assume they are as good as the old ones if not better optically. Good luck...
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Cheap enough used if the .458 knocks it apart you can buy another.
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That would sort of depend when it decides to fail. At the range, fine, in the bush, not so fine.
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Without the doubt the best scope for the money on large caliber heavy game rifle is Nikon 'Monarch' Safari 1,1-4x24.
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The scopes mentioned so far are all good options. I would lean towards either the fixed 3x(now back in production and sold at SWFA)or the 4x leupold, depending on your tastes. These are newer scopes with better glass and coatings than the weaver.
If the scope needs to look 1983ish than an older 4x Leupold with the smaller objective and gloss finish should do the job and still be brighter than the weavers.
Good luck!
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Hi:
Do not waste your time with an old Weaver! Get a modern good quality scope!
Good luck,
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Thanks for the suggestions. I probably should have waited until I knew I had the rifle before I asked this question. But now I have won it as the auction just ended. Gunbroker # 341673910. It is not a Winchester, but the next best thing I think, a Ruger 77 made in 1983. It is controlled round feed at least, as that is what I was wanting in a rifle of this caliber. I need to gat rings, but they are out there. Once I get the iron sights set ( would you men recommend 50yds, or 100yds ) I will put the scope on and sight it in. Then in the event of scope failure, for whatever reason, I still have iron sights.
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My Weaver advice was for setting up a classic Winchester 458 with the correct period scope. Real dangerous game it's not what I would do, Rifle Scope or Caliber.
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[quote=RedofTx]but the next best thing I think, a Ruger 77 made in 1983. It is controlled round feed at least, as that is what I was wanting in a rifle of this caliber. [/quote
I don't wish to disappoint you but if my memory serves me, the Ruger 77's made in 1983 are not true Controlled Round Feed actions. While they have the long Mauser type extractor the cartridge does not slide up under the rim of it and is captured when it leaves the magazine. The action also uses the Mauser type bolt release but it uses the REMINGTON 700 type button plunger ejector. It was the Ruger 77 MKII that became a true CRF. HTH Jerry
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