Related to the shaving comb height thread, I find the discussion about seeing some rib or just a bead a bit confusing, what with stacked beads, stacked quarters, and a lot of (most?) new guns with only 2 1/4" drop flying in the face of guns I seem to shoot well, where all I see is a bead. That's partly why I prefer older guns, with more drop. As a western upland hunter, few of my shots are rising up, with the exception of released roosters. Most are crossing (huns, quail, wild roosters), and many are angling down (chukars), where a flat shooting gun is advisable. Maybe it's an east vs west thing? I'm just not really sure where the discrepancy comes from.