Hi, let them get out some distance and use a smaller gauge then you would otherwise. Also most clubs offer scratch hunting and that can be fun. The dumb ones are dead and chased a few times the ones left catch on real quick. Anyone who shoots a constant 25 at skeet can mix things up or back up and it changes the game. Also check with landowners close by, that can offer some hunting. It is what you make of it. I "guide" at a Pheasant farm here in northern Wisconsin. Being self employed it's my paid vacation. Myself and the dogs stay in shape for Grouse and some people want to go after the scratch birds and they are the fun ones. Happy hunting! Bob

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