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The most straight forward solution is to use a thicker liner, put up with a bit of extra weight in the gun, and use proven methods of securing the liner. Many of the guns being lined are not light bird guns, and could put up with some added weight withoug ruining their utility.

A very interesting discussion: I recently contacted Teague, only to find he no longer lined barrels. I have a Sauer & Sohn 16 gauge hammer gun with Leupold Bernard damascus barrels.
I have decided to have Briley's put in 28 Gauge full length tubes so I can shoot the gun without worry. I wish it were a 16, but, as a Native American friend of mine says "It is what it is."
Sam Ogle, Lincoln, NE

Sidelock: My father used to say "Everything I ever learned was through pain; not intelligent decision making."

Sam
Your farther and I are not worlds apart in summing up how life works for us mere mortals.

It is my understanding that a scant few of barrel sets Teague had lined were bored less than 'paper thin' in the lining process, yet the job was completed and barrels returned to the owners even with the resultant obvious flaws, e.g. bubbling of the untra-thin Damascus tubes.
Some barrel sets simply are not candidates for this lining process and this should have been known by the people at Teague and the job been refused. Not to have done so was a poor business choice in my opinion.

They saved countless beautiful damascus barrels which otherwise would have been scrap or sleeved. If a few failed I am sorry but many other are still doing well. Another option is gone for saving the esthetics of a fine set of damascus barrels.

The problem people have with duplicating weight in a set of barrels should be addressed. If the barrels are so thin that they need to be sleeved or lined that weight is not what should be the restored weight goal. They certainly did not start out at .015-.020. They started out at .030-.035 most likely. So they should weigh what a set of factory original set weighted when new not what a set of worn thin barrels ended up weighing. Hence they should be restored to a set of .035 barrel thickness. Let them add a few extra ounces of metal to make them stronger and make them last for another hundred years. Would you rather have a set of paper thin barrels again or a set that will endure a few honings and a restrickings over the next two lifetimes?

No arguement from me about that.

I have had them reline a J D Dougall hammer gun "highest quality" with Lockfast setup and really, really nice damascus barrels, but totally shot out (pitted, thin and rivelled). As a matter of fact they also restocked it and built a new trigger guard from scratch.
The gun was originally a 13 bore as the proof marks indicate.
I think that it is now balanced just as it was on day one (around 1874 or so).
Funny enough, I bought the gun in Paris but it is inscribed on the rib to a gent in St Louis, Mo. So it went from the UK to US back to France and now back in the US... Not to mention a trip to UK for relining.
A traveling Dougall, that is.
Overall, I am sorry they (Teague) quit doing it.
Best regards,
WC-

But what was the reason they stopped doing it?

I do not know all the details but I will share what I know. The lining business was separated off from all of Teague's other products and sold to the man who originally developed the process for Nigel Teague, his name is Jon Corner. When I became the representative Jon had just taken over the lining from Nigel. The cost of providing the service went up dramatically due to several factors. Shipping rules for firearms have changed and Jon modified the process to include re-laying the ribs, which of course required a barrel re-finish. I'm not sure what exactly led Jon to give up offering the service as he stopped taking my phone calls and replying to email at the time the service was canceled. He never even informed me, I learned through other contacts I have in the UK that the service was no longer being offered. I think the idea is sound, but executing it is not easy and making it profitable may be nearly impossible at this point in time.