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This is not the first maker that I have haven’t been able to identify, normally it’s one rifle from a regional maker and good quality. Not only is the workmanship above average (IMO) with this maker but I now have information on three rifles. Of the three, I have personally examined two and have good pictures of the third. Because one of the rifles has a heel and toe plate my thought was that whoever made these might have a background with or worked with shotguns as well as rifles.
These rifles are in the style of Fred Adolph and August Pachmayr with the stock carving incorporating the checkering as well as metal engraving. With all the gunsmiths, gunmakers and engravers now visiting this site I felt it was worthwhile for more folks to have a look. There is no right or wrong answers, if something jumps out at you, speak up. I’ll try to answer any questions with the exception of who the owners are. I’ll refer to the rifles as No, 1, 2 & 3.
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I see why gun 1 drew attention and offers. It's got it.
Regarding #2, is the receiver a replacement? With all the decorative art applied to the gun, the parkerized (03a3?) receiver looks out of place...out of date too?
Thanks for sharing your interesting mystery!
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I am no help, but I sure can admire these guns. Very nice. Are they still in 30-06? It doesn't really matter, just wondering.
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Michael, what are the initials on the second floorplate? Anyone you know?
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Just tracking down a well known maker's rifle is a hard nut to crack. I've done a little looking into my Daniel Fraser single-shot rifle, but am finding, somethings are just best left to the fog of times gone-by.
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I don’t believe that any of the receivers are replacements, All are 1903’s none are A3’s.
Yes all are still .30-06’s
I have no idea who the initials belong to, the original owner I assume.
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Have you looked at Midwestern schuetzen makers? Although that business ended with World War 1, these rifles are no more than five to ten years newer than that. Perhaps Dutcher's Ballard book in the section on Cusstomized rifles would show similar carving.
I will look in the "Cyclopedia of Monograms" to see if I can decifer the initial on #2 per Eightbore's question.
The carving on #3 is the finest I've seen! Beautiful rifles all, but that one is my favorite.
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