Sam, you're a good internet friend, but you must understand that we are not talking about the "range" or "hunting" and no one has said anything about an "argument". I explained Ohio Gun Collectors Association, and a written report of an infraction there is often a "guilty" verdict with little chance of appeal. "Argument" does not enter into it. I, for one, am waiting for the original poster to be a gentleman and explain the event. You know me well enough to know that, by now, you would have a five paragraph explanation from me.