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Daryl is dead on right on French innovation.
It never ceases to amaze me how little respect French and Belgian makers receive for their quality and for innovation.
I know many hardware store guns came from the continent, but so did great quality and innovation
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Daryl'
In "The British Shotgun,' Vol 1 1850-1870 Baker and Crudgington give an excellent and unbiased review of the origins of early breech loaders, Pauly, Lefaucheux,s, Lancaster and many more if not all early designs are reviewed.
In chapter 7, "Daw, Schneider and the Centrefire," are covered in great detail. Also relevant is a review of the patent dispute between Daw and Eley. The gist of this patent dispute centered on Daw,s claim that he held a master Patent covering centre fire shot gun cartridges and that Eley was infringing same!
Daws Claim was for all practical purposes denied; thus allowing Eley to provide their non-patent cartridges to any maker/user of centre shotguns.
With Daw denied a monopoly, the development and production of centrefire guns by the U.K. makers took off.
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I should have titled the post "The first successful centre-fire gun, which launched the rapid changeover from pinfire to modern system sporting guns in Britain' ....
But it was too long and all I really wanted to say was "look at the nice gun, it is interesting'.
Apologies to all the fine foreign gentlemen I dissed! C&B do indeed explain it all very fully.
I don't think we'll be seeing any new Daw guns in the near future but you never know. I think James is just happy to own a piece of history and it makes a nice excuse to collect all sorts of bits and pieces connected with the firm. He is the son of Bill Blacker,in my opinion one of the very best barrel makers working, who does a good deal of work for me.
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An interesting specimen. I am always trying to get a friend to part with a Daw's patent gun marked F. Gates, Derby. If you shake it it should rattle as Daw guns usually had a spare pair of firing pins and an extractor secreted under the butt plate. Lagopus.....
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Shotgunlover, In my area there is one Daw and a Belgian SXS, the name is in difficult to decipher gothic text, it might be Darry, do you have a picture of the gothic text...? Would be intersting! Best Regards, Gunwolf
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My friend James Blacker (a barrel maker) now has the rights to the Daw firm and is collecting Daw artefacts so, I'm going to give the gun to him. He's only a young chap and very enthusiastic.You should see how enthusiastic he is to get to play with it! Excellent move Dig! You are to be applauded for encouraging the next generation to maintain an interest in these finely made guns. Thank you. Tim
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I did stipulate he had to take me pigeon shooting with him and it so I can do a story - maybe one for the DGJ?
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