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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Try good 'ole Browning Double Automatic, or Franchi 48AL w/mod choking, you might even like it! Why this infatuation with SxS action type?


Nobody ever said it was rational. Beauty and art are not logical or necessarily practical concepts. But, love is love whether or not it can be explained.
But, why ask such a question on this BBS? It is apparent that this board is devoted to devotees of a classic old concept. You could go onto some online Board that is devoted to old cars and ask they why not a modern one with all the bells and whistles?
Because.
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The whole history of RBL threads here seems strangely reminiscent of another recent American double that many lusted for, then trashed after a bit...good ol' Gold Label?


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I put the RBL and my RizziniB in the same class of guns; well made production guns with good dynamics, nice lines and costing $2.5 - $3K. I don't have the RBL in hand so I'm hoping it fits in this class.

I see customer purchased NIB Rizzinis for sale too. Trying to figure out why a dozen or so of the first 700ish guns are for sale is going to be 10-20 different stories. The RBLs for sale seem to be selling.

The RBL issue I'm not cool with is the inconsistent grading of the wood. Eightbore's long term yearning for a standard issue RBL is irritating because he's fooking right. I didn't change my order to standard wood, but that has more to do with the CFO and annual gunbudget (Use it or lose it - if $700 was credited back it'd get wasted on groceries or kid's clothes) than gunbuying sense.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Try good 'ole Browning Double Automatic, or Franchi 48AL w/mod choking, you might even like it! Why this infatuation with SxS action type?


If you don't get, nothing anyone can say will make you "get it".
However, from a practical standpoint, how about two chokes instead of one.


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The advantage of SXS is having choice of 'full patch' vs. sp in 400-500gr wt. range at 20 to 80 paces. Two triggers, "plates", and barrels add to confidence in case a spring brakes:D But, do game birds "shoot back"?
PS. You do realize that 48AL handles better then many of those old SxS clunkers?

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You realize the barrels on a SXS don't shuffle back and forth when fired? The bolt closing on an autojammer sounds exactly like a cheap steel wheeled kids roller skate hitting concrete from about four feet up.
You will, however, be the king stud in the trailer park...
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
The merkel model 8 was all of that for less than 1/3 of an RBL but, sadly, no longer imported.



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Model 8's have crappy un-attractive wood, no ejectors, no real "options", usually had cheekpeices (some like em, so dont). With that said, I would buy a Model 8 over a brand new RBL anyday.

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Ejectors tend to make a mess. Used to think I liked them, but have changed my mind. Gun cocks easier too.

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Ejectors.
Well, I have only been on the board a rather short time. And, I bet there are paast threads aplenty on this subject. Truthfully, most of my experience with doubles until much later in life was with various O/Us most of which had ejectors.
At a fairly young age, I started saving my empty hulls. Originally, to reload but eventually because they are rather foul garbage I did not want to leave around. So, whenever I open a gun my natural move is to block the ejector function with one hand and take out the empties manually.
Ejectors are fine. And, good ones are mechanically nice to see and hear and feel when they work. But the reality is, if I let them work then I have to go chase the empties.
I can take em or leave em and, for investment purposes, they seem to be a bonus.
But, I would never pay to have them put on any kind of custom made double if I had the option. And, they are one more thing to break or get out of adjustment and have issues with.
I would be interested in hearing what other folks think about them.
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Unless they are Darne ejectors, someone else can have mine. Completely unneeded for my type and style of hunting, and prone to adjustment and breakage issues.

Like Bunkie Knudson said "if it 'ain't there, it can't break". Empties belong in the pocket of a hunting coat, to be cleaned out later. A Darne gets 'em out of the gun, and then you scoop 'em up, and take 'em home. Simple, polite, easy.
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