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Doug, you are right to a point but seeing as I am not a believer, I think my comparison is valid.

And I suppose, that is the whole point of that part of my post.

Craig, don't get me wrong. King makes mistakes of logic, he obfuscates, he ducks and dodges pointed questions. So what, I say. What he writes here is only a reflection of himself and he influences no one.

That is in a different league from someone making allegations regarding daughters and VD. A course of discussion I have no time for nor would I ever attempt to excuse. As Keith has regularly said, it's vile and inexcusable.

The larger point I am trying to make, as have a few comic frames and BHD, is that Keith has been beating that poor dead horse for quite some time now. The horse isn't getting up. It's over and the small audience here all know it's dead. We would now, for the most part, like to move on.

If someone else happens to post a pro libtard, hypocritical statement or belief, by all means, pile on and show them to be the fools they are. I'll join you. But not ongoing for the next six months, in every thread on every subject that the fool happens to show his face in. We are just a bit out of gas. That's all.

Doug, didn't mean to shortchange you in my response. Just got swamped by everyone else.

You say that religion IS NOT an inanimate object so my analogies have no correlation. But that is only true if I am a believer. As I am not, my analogies do make perfect sense....it is your belief that defies my logic. My point being that I should be able to respect your differing belief from mine (God / No God) and still pass the time amiably discussing guns, dogs, muscle cars and whatever else crosses our minds. It would never strike to me demonstrate such a profound lack of respect towards you as to imagine that because I don't share your religious beliefs, you have nothing to offer me. That's how I approach people.

I am in agreement that intelligent discussion with libtards is well nigh impossible....ON THOSE SUBJECTS. But perhaps gnomon knows a killer ruffed grouse recipe. Or loves Llewellin setters as I do. Or maybe he knows where a mint 67 RS/SS Camaro convertible can be found cheap.

Among my friends and acquaintances in real life (not on line) I am known to be one of the most argumentative, hard line right wing people they know. And I don't spend much time, on purpose, with the urban libtards that think the Occupy movement was great. So it's not like I normally lie down on this stuff. I don't.

But do you really think Dave in Maine or Gnomon or OWD posts here to disrupt the pro gun movement? Misguided in their political beliefs, for sure. Sleeper agents infiltrating to disrupt??? Really?

I would say that you or Keith or Jim or I never have to call out anyone's anti gun rhetoric ON THIS SITE. They do it themselves. I know I can't help responding at times, as do others, but I also know that here, on this site, I don't need to. No one is being fooled.

I don't want the US to end up like the UK or Canada (although we are a damn sight better than the UK). And I agree, you should be proud of what happened in Colorado. But those things have little to do with the subject of this thread, the exchanges between Keith and King and how tiresome they have become for most of us.

And finally, I would like to say that, as always, I love reading Keith's posts for the sheer logic, accuracy and determination to destroy the opposition. It warms my heart and I have told Keith this in the past. I am just advocating for a change-up in subjects as this one (King's difficulty with truth and direct responses to pointed questions) has been well aired.

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" My point being that I should be able to respect your differing belief from mine (God / No God) and still pass the time amiably discussing guns, dogs, muscle cars and whatever else crosses our minds. It would never strike to me demonstrate such a profound lack of respect towards you as to imagine that because I don't share your religious beliefs, you have nothing to offer me. That's how I approach people. "

If you were preaching on here that all who believe in God are idiots and also too stupid to be trusted with guns we'd have a real issue.
You do nothing of the sort and I have other friends who are non-believers so your belief would certainly not be an obstruction to friendship on my part. I would hope and yes pray that eventually you'll change your views but I'd do nothing to attempt this "change" my self.

Jim, just saw your PS edit about the Sun Times reporter. I will read that and your comment is a perfect example of why I don't close my mind to others who view the world differently. Who knows from what direction enlightenment will strike. I am an imperfect being struggling to do better. I'll take the help, guidance and direction from wherever it comes.

James, thanks for the detailed reply.

Not my meaning, DIM, OWD and Gnomon and the rest of the libs are not sleeper anything, except sleeper mentalities.....that is what I meant. These libtards, as you and others have mentioned, bury themselves without any outside help.

I meant they question/disrupt many factual posts/threads with false analogies and attempt to refute hard facts. This was my meaning, probably poorly worded by me. I guess this is part of the process as each thread matures.



Best,

Doug, you use a great word....attempt. That they may do, attempt. And they fail miserably every time.

They attempt and fail because they are wrong, because they have no supporting fact or logic, because they twist meaning, because they prey on or fall for emotion.

But why would we care about that HERE. The hundreds of others who read it HERE don't buy it, don't fall for it.

I get it if it's an op/ed piece in the NY Times, 60 Minutes or on NPR. Its a different audience with those types of forums. But here?

Please, an open question to all readers of this thread....by posting here or PM me if you wish your name kept out of the limelight, someone please tell me if any post or thread here in Misfires has caused you to change your outlook on gun regulations.

After reading all the lull and fluff our libtards call compromise it turned me into an even more hard core, conservative, son of a bi+ch than I was before.

Canvasback:
For whatever it's worth; I was a Non-believer myself for over 20 years.
Here's a link for you his name is Lee Strobel and I chatted with him last year when he visited my church.
Jim

http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Christ-Journalists-Investigation/dp/0310209307

I don't think they're plants here to disrupt, but each one of them has made derogatory comments about folks who have worried that the current admin. had/has a gun control agenda. They've also made it clear where their votes went, and have shown no indication that they have changed where their support lies. To each his own, but they seem purposeful, not misguided.