James, no evisceration for you my friend, for we are both on the same side. I note however that we have diverged lately in the way we approach the same things. I was not even going to post tonite to answer the many comments that appeared since last night but I don't want to disappoint you.
You said earlier that you actually miss nca225, Gnomoron, homer, etc. because you enjoyed debating them to the point of letting them expose themselves and even making fools of themselves. I for one, felt they were trying to make fools of us, and nobody gets away with ever trying to make a fool of me. Different strokes. Others here feel the same even if they aren't quite as vociferous as me. I knew from our conversations that you and nca225 even had sidebar conversations outside of this forum, and I told you then that I thought you were wasting your time debating with an agenda driven liar. So it came to pass with The King and I. Turning up the heat seemed to be a good way to make him understand that no longer would he get away with underhanded insults and outright lies. Most folks back away from being exposed and pull back, but King pathologically doubled down and even went to the extreme of recently saying that I had dishonored his father. Now the liar was calling me a liar in order to create a shield for his previous lies. Should I have just let it go? What do you call a filthy lie... a little fib? A mistake? A blurb from an elderly "gentleman with class"? I call a spade a spade and am castigated for it. Somehow, I will try to survive without crying. Exposing the sheer hypocrisy and dishonesty has been theraputic for my shattered psyche!
I said on a number of occasions that King always held the power to make me stop sharing my opinions. I didn't force him to keep telling lies and hurling laser guided barbs and insults while pretending to be civil by not naming names. He did that himself.
I'll ask you, and GLS this: Is it worse to call someone who really IS a lier, especially when it becomes a personal reputation damaging lie, a "filthy liar"... or is it worse to call someone who IS NOT a racist, bigot, liar, or mysogynist a racist, bigot, liar or mysogynist?
Even if you twist logic and go to the extreme position of saying that neither line should ever be crossed in polite company, then how do you create a new thread which only attacks the first position as GLS has done? I said that this is hypocritical. For pointing out the obvious, GLS now feels some transference where he has become the victim. I say if the shoe fits, wear it. If the shoe is uncomfortable, switch shoes. He has not switched shoes yet.
What's interesting to me is becoming the victim. Someone is 'called out' and that person gives the effort to respond in detail. Only one point, photos, is selected for acknowledgement and the rest is dismissed as uncivil and undeserved bolts of lightening.
Above are a few pertinent sentences from craigd's concise yet astute post on pg. 4. Some here should go back and re-read all of it. Obviously, craigd has in the past noticed that, while not ad hominum, these laser guided attacks by King and now GLS are very obvious and just as egregious as one that names names. GLS has posted about a "participant" who attended a Yom Kippur dinner. "Participant"??? Cut the crap GLS. You know you meant me, so be a man and say it. This whole thread is pointed at me so just cut the crap. You are not being civil by not calling me out directly by name. You're not fooling anyone. That's the game King plays. What's next, telling the lie that says I put words in your mouth and then pretending to ignore me as King has done?Well maybe you are fooling yourself and the guys who think King is a gentleman with class. I call it bullshit.
You know why... because it is bullshit. So don't expect me to call it a rose just because GLS suddenly has become selectively hypersensitive,
craigd also again points out, as I have, that GLS only responded to one point... the non-existant photos of nca225... and ignored everthing else I said in my short post last night. I meant for it to be short because I was very tired, but I took the time to answer each charge and point out each lie and hypocritical position I saw in his previous post. I noted that he had not responded to those from my initial post, but merely did the Liberals Dance of the Gnomoron. The Dance continues. As I shut down the computer and finally went to bed, I realized that most of that post was wasted on him because he'd ignore it and change the subject. Turns out I was right again. But the audience can see the hypocrisy and that makes it all worthwhile.
GLS sees irony in that I went to a Yom Kippur dinner which is Jewish New Year and a day of atonement and forgiveness. I am not Jewish, but I have many Jewish friends, and have attended Temple services, Bar Mitzvahs, etc. I am Catholic, which is how I knew that King lied about the circumstance of his father's conversion as an adult. I can forgive GLS for his lie where he said I posted pictures of nca225 if he's sorry and asking for forgiveness. He gave a curt acknowledgement that he was wrong and stands corrected. But I guess we'll just dance around everything else. He still remains anonymous after criticizing me for just using my first name. He must think we won't notice this "attack" on my behavior while hypocritically ignoring, and then glossing over worse attacks on my daughter by nca225. I might even forgive nca225... when hell freezes over.
So does GLS want atonement from me while ignoring the slings, arrows, outright lies, and hypocrisy of others including himself? Sorry, that's not going to happen, and I won't be turning the proverbial cheek either. Not, at least, until I see similar behavior from the other side. I'm not a pushover or a fool. Nor am I intimidated or worried that my words will mean the eventual destruction of the whole DoubleGun BBS. That's a big steaming pile too. He says he's tired of internet insults and is now going to take up his bat and swing from his toes. Without realizing it, now he is saying just what I have said, and plans on doing just what I have done. Just as he has become tired of name calling, I became tired of repeated unanswered lies and agenda driven liberal bullshit that was often aimed at weakening our 2nd Amendment Rights. I certainly was not just talking to a half dozen guys who generally agree with me. There have been 1078 views of this thread to date while only maybe a dozen have posted comments. But instead of naming names and calling names, he is going to advise frivilous retaliatory litigation as revenge and hypocritical one-sided criticism. If anyone disagrees or offers compelling proof of hypocrisy, he'll just ignore that and do the dance. I have never been shy about declaring which side of the aisle I'm on. GLS has shown us he has aligned himself with the Gnomorons, homers, nca225's, King's, and cpa's of the world. I'm fine with where I am at. He will predictably be in denial and try to avoid declaring where he's at. We are different, GLS and I.
One last thing James... I am not an Evangelist out to convert you, but I'd like you to consider, as I think King's Dad might have considered in his final years... that you are special. You are not here to live a random life which came from nothing, and then die and become worm food. You have a mind and a soul which will go on after your body is dust. Just the fact that you have the miracle of thought and the gift of reasoning should be all the proof you need to realize this is not a mere myth. When you are alone in the dark woods and dawn wakes up the world, are you just another chickadee instinctively searching for calories to survive another cold night, or are you a special part of God's creation with God-given capacitity to appreciate the wonderment of it all? For me, as a child, this was just faith. But the more science I know, the more I see and read, the more I know this to be true. From your Paleobiology class, you will learn that billions of species have come and gone extinct over billions of years, and only yours can even begin to appreciate this. You may hear the term, Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. I heard it in nearly every biology class I took. But only man has a soul. I'm sure I'll never begin understand it all in this life for "the machinery of the world is much too complex for the simplicity of men."
