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I recently acquired a grade 2 1889. Its in fairly good shape, it appears all original with no evidence of the screws being turned (all the slots line up). It has/had some light surface rust and some minor barrel pitting. I'll probably restore it some time this winter, but I can see myself using it this fall for grouse.
There's only one problem, the extractor doesn't rise. The crazy thing is, it rises normally when I have the forend off, its only when the gun is complete that it has a problem. Any thoughts?
Thanks Kenneth
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Kenneth Question Is this an ejector gun? Could be, but pictures would be helpful. If you put in a snap cap (fired hull) and exercise the trigger then what happens when you open the gun? Thanks Mike
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No, it's an extractor. It should be fairly simple. Otherwise it functions normally. That's what makes it strange...
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OK Here was a question on the Remington Society 1889 extractor question I recently acquired a 10 ga Rem '89 and can't seem to find any technical info about it. In particular, I was wondering if the extractor is designed to only function with the hammers cocked. That is how mine functions. http://www.remingtonsociety.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=502
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Kenneth Question Is this an ejector gun? Could be, but pictures would be helpful. If you put in a snap cap (fired hull) and exercise the trigger then what happens when you open the gun? Thanks Mike Remington catalogs made no mention of ejectors being available for the Model 1889. The first catalog known to advertise the 1889 was the 1892 catalog and it does not mention ejectors being available for any grade, up to and including the Grade 7. The first mention I can find reference to, of ejectors being offered by Remington on a double is the Model 1894, which, of course is a "hammerless" gun, unlike the Model 1889. In their October 1894 catalog Remington offers grades A.E., B.E., C.E., D.E. and E.E., all ejector models, in 10 and 12 gauge. Kenneth, I will look closely at my 1889 tomorrow, or as soon as I have time, and see if I can help you figure this out. All my best, SRH
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Thanks.
Excellent. The extractor DOES function normally with the hammers cocked, or more specifically, with the right hammer cocked. I wonder if this is normal?
Also, does anyone know what the factory finish was on these guns? Was it oil, varnish, or possibly french polish similar to the Parkers of the same period?
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Yep, they're pretty much the same as mine. The first one looks like a grade 3, with damascus barrels. The second one is a grade 1 with steel barrels. It looks like it may have been gone over with a power buffing wheel. Mine is a grade 2 with fine twist barrels.
Uh-oh, the second one is broken with the right hammer down, and the extractor has raised....I suspect I may have a problem...
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Thanks for those links, Mike. They both are advertised as having "automatic ejector", not ejector s. This is usually a giveaway that the seller does not know the difference. When you enlarge the view of the second gun advertised, with the breech open, it looks like a one-piece extractor to me, though it is hard to tell definitively from a side view like that. I read through Semmer's 16 pages, that he devotes to the Model 1889 in his book, and he makes no mention of the gun ever being made with ejectors. I am no expert on Remingtons, but I take him to be. I believe if 1889s had been offered with ejectors he would have said so. Until I see proof I will stand by my belief that none were made. Thanks for the links, though, they are new sites to me. All my best, SRH
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