It has nothing to do with the gunner and everything to do with the type of gun, and it's not a turn down of the nose down on pump guns. Yah and the guy can bring his hump back auto, flint lock, percussion, pellet gun, one hole target rifle and paint ball gun and shoot them as side events at the big side by side shoots. Just cabbage on the work of others, instead of showing initiative and setting up their own associations. CB