I have two English Setters and couldn't be more pleased. One works out and one in close. They are also pets. I know some people don't agree with that, but my wife spoils these two and they are still great at finding birds and very steady in the field. We had ours sent in from Idaho. We were so pleased with the first one, we went right back to the breeder for the second. If you're interested, PM and I'll send your pictures and the kennel info. George