Ted's sling is good for those who don't want a permanent alteration or don't want to reblue after soldering. Wonder how much it costs? I prefer soldered front sling swivels, as I don't trust screws there to stay tight or hold up to wear. Only have one long gun without a sling, a Browning auto .22--may have to alter that some day. I'm just too lazy to carry port arms all the time, though I did with a 5 1/2 pound Greener once upon a time. Steve