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Hello monteneerin,
Thank you for the reply. (thank you to others as well)
Yes, the Ferlach barrels are "sleeved" into the original block. You can barely see a thin line around the face of both chambers, but it is there. You can also see a thin line at the outside just ahead of the chambers, like mon-o-block construction.
Is there any source (book) that shows the different "grades" of Greener shotguns? Do you think an email to the factory would gain any information?
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www.wwgreener.comGo here and you can buy Greener books and write to Mr. Graham Greener about your gun. I did so some years ago and received a very kind email with much of the pertinent information. With kind regards, Jani
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You should email Greener's and they should have some record of the gun.
Graham Greener was so in kind in providing details on my 16ga FH50 I felt obligated to purchse his book, which was quite informative and I believe woth the money. I regret I do not have the money to send my 16 back to Greeners for an additional set of barrels.
Michael Dittamo
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That sir,is what Mr.Greener called a Grade G Gun,or Self-Acting Ejector. The serpentine fences and scalloped back should make it a G-45 grade,(price was 45 Guineas)a mid grade gun.I would say the gun was made in the early 1890's.
The forearm looks right,stock not so much.
If the action ever needs work,talk with Greener's first!
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For the so called "G Gun" see the book "Guncraft" of Vic Venters, very interesting! And: don't speak of a "Boxlock", it's a G-Gun...!  Gunwolf
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Hello All,
I thank you for the information. I have emailed both W.W. Greener and "JOSEF JUST" (Ferlach Austria) to see if they have any information about this shotgun. I'll let you know if they respond.
I added a picture in my second post showing the JOSEF JUST marking on the rib.
If anyone has any pictures of the book reference, please post them. I'm eager to learn what a "G" gun is all about.
I've got an invite to a trap range to test the gun next week. I'm going to give it a try.
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Thanks Gunwolf. For anyone interested I'll be happy to e-mail you a PDF of the G Gun chapter gratis. PM me your e-mail address.
The best source is straight from the source: Graham Greener's two books on the company and guns. Highly recommended.
Graham will be at a book signing at Josephs fine guns near Houston in a couple weeks, along with Cyril Adams, Diggory Hadoke (Smallbore), myself, and some other luminaries from the British gun trade. Stop by and meet them.
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Thank you Vic Venters, I'm currently searching local sources for your book. I received the following reply from Graham Greener early this morning. He writes this about my shotgun: " W W Greener gun no. 39135 was started on 20th April 1891 and finished on 9th October the same year. It is a double barrel sporting shotgun a G2 model, 12 bore with 30 inch barrels. It has a Facile Princeps action with self-acting ejectors invented in 1881. It was shipped to our establishment in New York so we do not have the details of the first owner. Stock dimensions when made were 2-3/4 by 1-5/8 by 14-1/4 inches, full pistol hand. The gun cost 35 guineas when sold (36.75 in todays money)." ..... "the gun is genuine, the trade label in the case is a forgery."
-Graham Greener I am hopeful that Josef Just, Ferlach, Austria, will provide additional information about the barrel modification, and/or other history about this fine shotgun. Everyone keep your fingers crossed.
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Graham mentions the stock as Full pistol hand..is that full pistol grip?
Your's has Prince of Wales...so restocked or altered,perhaps by Joe Just?
franc
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