Here they are, Larry, along with a photo of the offender:
The VIPs are pretty clearly marked 65mm, 2 1/2 inch. I also have used Eley "Super Game", in 12 gauge loading, which is, or was, (Eley ownership has changed since I ordered my last pallet of ammunition) a 67mm cartridge, and I truly regret the fact that I haven't been able to get more of them in 12 gauge loading for some time. Both loads are outstanding. The VIP open up to 2 1/2, in this 16 gauge loading.
I wish I had made a chamber cast of the Tobin, before the work was done, so we could all sit here and speculate what was going on the day the gun was built. One thing I don't regret at all is having Stan Baker work on the gun. It is a fine handling and shooting piece, now. Oh, the last ripped end cartridge would have come out of the gun in the very early 1990s, right after I got it. Its all good now, Larry.
Chuck, I think I'd go with gun #2, especially if the price was the same as gun #1. Sounds like it would be great to actually shoot with.
Best,
Ted
