I think we all understand the hype and make judgements by examining the gun, not the hype. We also know that the gun is similar to the Rizzini that CSMC used to market. No mystery there. To answer your question, yes, I do understand chopper lumps and realize that the Model 21 over under and the Inverness are made using a different system, and I still bought an Inverness. Of course, my SO Beretta is built on the same system.