Well, this is EOT for me too. First, let's address what a 'player' is. A Player As far as I'm concerned is one who plays in the gun buying world. I have a safe full of nice shotguns and a rather high insurance premium, so I guess that would constitute being a player. As far as being simplistic and evasive, I wish I could tell my story about CSMC but in a public forum I think it is best to keep that part private. 'How many Model 21's have I examined'? Well, I have owned more than 10. I currently have a custom shop 'custom' grade 20 b and a Grade IV 2 barrel set 20b with A carved wood. I almost got taken on a 'Winchester Custom Grade' .410 which did not letter with Cody and it turned out to be a gun that had 'Winchester' on it and Winchester proof marks. Whew.....that was a close call; but in reality it wasn't even a CSMC reproduction. I'm guessing it was some sort of forgery. Not sure who made it, it was a very nice gun, but nevertheless a forgery. How many CSMC guns have you examined to label them POS? Several, but I try to buy only Winchester made Model 21's. And yes, I do have a terrible taste in my mouth over the one and only gun deal I had with them.......and you would too.
