doublegunshop.com - home Forums Our friend Ed did it again!

Although we can only hope for the latter...

P. T. Barnum's axiom keeps him afloat:

"There's a [gun] sucker born every minute."

bb: you sound like one of my competitors...course, we really don't know who you are or where you are or what you are, do we?

but, then you have lots of company here, don't you?

khanh: I tried to send you a private message, but was unable to do so. I see from your profile that you claim to be a physican located in Austin, texas...

suggest you read the thread "BOARD RULES" recently started in misfires.

please be so kind as to tell me where you found the libelous information that you posted on this web site...if you do so, your cooperation will not be forgotten...it is one thing to conduct harmless banter here. it is quite another thing to spread slanderous, libelous rumors that could affect ones livelihood...as a physican, perhaps dealing with the public, certainly you would agree?

PM received from Ed Good today:

"canvasback: suggest you read the thread "BOARD RULES" in misfires. sincerely, ed good"

My response:

"Ed, thanks for the reminder. I did.

BTW, There is nothing I have written that could remotely be considered libelous. I consider this to be an attempt to intimidate me.

To use your expression, silly little boy.

Ed, I liked King's comments to you earlier today. Noting your regularly upbeat and enthusiastic personality as it comes across here. I like your wide range of interests as you sometimes display by the themes of your threads.

What I don't like is your silly attempts to change the views of EVERYONE here regarding case hardening. Science is not on your side. I think there is a certain hypocrisy in earning money by selling hunting guns yet trying to convince others not to hunt. And I don't like your business practices, as near as I can ascertain them.

Those are personal views. On occasion I don't mind sharing them with the board but it's not my mission in life to convince others to my views.

Finally, I would suggest that sending PM's to various members in an attempt at intimidation is probably a bad strategy. These messages, yours and mine, will be made public, as soon as I finish my dinner.

Regards,

James Roblin
aka Canvasback

Just recieved another e-mail notification from Ed,this time threatening me with legal actions for things I said about him.First of all I never said anything about him personally a,I know nothing about him,second the things I said were in general about how to deal with being ripped off on internet,happens every day and there are ways to deal with them if you pay by USPS money orders,my comments did not specify Ed in any way.The other thing I said was thank you for the heads up on the deal.Ed go ahead and waste your money and try to take me to court,I have in no way said anything about you personally.I have not responded to any of your posts until now.I still cannot believe this web site has not banded you for the threatening e-mails you are sending to me.As for the web sites responce to this I am never going to come here again anyway,I dont appreciate my e-mail box filled with your kind of trash.

Follow up from Ed Good to me via PM today:

james: just giving fair warning... data is being collected. weather your posts here are subject legal action against you is not up to me nor you. be aware that my attoney has colleagues licensed to practice in Ontario...it is one thing to conduct friendly banter here. it is quite another thing to spread slanderous, libelous rumors that could affect ones livelihood...

and as for making private messages public, well that is generally considered as untrustworthy behavior by one of low character...and that is up to you to decide. sincerely, ed good


Ed, I didn't initiate a PM with you. I never asked that our correspondence, such as it is, be kept private and reading a PM from you is not an explicit or implicit agreement to keep that correspondence private.

If you want to communicate with me on the subjects you have raised, you might as well do it in the thread. If you want to waste your money and your lawyer's associates' time in Ontario, be my guest.

yep: untrustworthy behavior by one of low character...

it is one thing to conduct friendly banter here. it is quite another thing to spread slanderous, libelous rumors that could affect ones livelihood...

an back: here is your recent post up in the regular forum that prompted me respect you enough to send you a private message regarding your potentially libelous posts here:

I'm not sure "one of Ed's best customers" and "long term investment firearms portfolio" really go together.

I've looked at lots of your ads over the years Ed, and forgetting all the issues that get raised here about the quality of restoration work that may have been done, even a relative newbie like me knows you aren't in the investment grade collectible business. At least not with shotguns.
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that sounds libelous to me...enough is enough, already...fair warning has been given.

My opinion:

ed cheated the man when he did not allow him to return that loose off-face double gun. ed should have also paid for the return shipping.

ed has cheated many many people in his all his business endeavors.

ed is a bully. And all his talk of libel and lawyers is hot air. ed bullied bg and tried to bully canvasback. Don't know who else got threatening PMs. I didn't.

ed good has no morals or principles. He will intimidate, cheat, lie, steal, whatever he needs to do to get what he thinks he wants.

I'm not sure "one of Ed's best customers" and "long term investment firearms portfolio" really go together.

End of my opinion.

I am going to post my opinions on this thread once a day every day until I either hear from ed's lawyer or Dave asks me to stop or March 31, 2014, whichever comes first.

Ed, of all the things I have said recently, I am most surprised you took offense to this. ( That's not true. I would have been more surprised if you took offense to my post in your Christmas video thread.) Mostly because I wasn't trying to denigrate the quality of firearms I have seen listed by you. I was making an observation of what category the shotguns I had seen, listed by you, would fall into.

In any market there are sellers that offer similar wares that are differentiated by quality and price. Think Honda and Mercedes. Both are well respected car companies but everyone knows they cater to different markets.

I tend to think of the offerings I have seen from you as fitting the Honda end of the market, not the Mercedes end of the market. And when anyone references "long term investment firearms portfolio" I think we are talking about high condition and high grade American collectibles as well as some of the better London and Continental names. While a few of these guns may have passed through your hands, it has been my observation that these are not your bread and butter offerings.

Admittedly I don't regularly scour the American auction sites you frequently list on. At least not as much as I did a few years ago. So maybe I have missed your high end stuff. But I did see recently you had a trader rating (100% BTW) of around 550. So obviously through that site you've moved a good number of guns over the years. I have seen maybe 30 or 40 listed by you. They typically are what I would call medium to lower original quality (Fox A grades or Sterlingworths etc.) and are selling in the $500 to $3500 range. In fact, they seem to be just the group of guns and price range I am typically looking at purchasing for myself.

And you may remember reading I specifically said I was making no reference whatsoever to the always contentious subject here of restoration work your gunsmith ol' Ed Landers has performed.

I am in no way backing off my earlier comments and if you feel they are deserving of legal action, have at it. But I don't like being misunderstood. The comments you referenced were in no way intended as a slight, they were an attempt to categorize the shotguns I have seen you offer. Not Barney's or Sak's, more like Sears, Penny and Target.

If you took it as a slight, then I unequivocally apologize because that time, I did not mean it to be.

I also appreciate you finally being direct with me about what you found offensive. I don't like vague or hazy.

James

That sure fits with my opinion of ed's business dealings. "I wouldn't be surprised if most of his listings are beater guns, waiting for sale with no chance of return, to become someone else's headache." Yep, that's how I perceive ed's modus operandi.