On the subject of chokes...when most of these vintage guns were made, nobody had ever thought of using a shotcup. With the advent of Remington's Power Piston shotcup system in the early 1960s, everything changed. Full and "rifle-full' chokes existed because of all the variables induced into any shotshell by the felt and fiber wadding used in all the commercially available ammunition of that era. Shorter forcing cones were also a result of the type of ammunition that was available at that time. With modern ammunition, you don't need the more abrupt forcing cone to stabilize the shot collumn and you certainly don't need that extra choke at the muzzle to guarentee a full pattern at distence.

When you combine modern ammunition with abrupt forcing cones and super-full chokes you get two undesirable results; fairly sharp-recoil and largely ineffective patterns at the ranges you would normally be shooting at game in the uplands.

Last edited by Lloyd3; 12/15/13 01:53 AM.