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The gun has been treated very , very poorly. But , in my estimation it is a gun worth putting a lot of money into to restore the barrels and the rest of the gun. It is worth having the best work on it. I could not have said it better. Although this shotgun is outside of most folks knowledge base it's a gun well worth a professional restoration.
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Ricktr00. In my opinion unless your gun has sentimental value that far exceeds its commercial value it is not worth restoration. For example You can purchase a comparable gun in good shape for 50% of the cost of restoring yours. For the record, The engraving is similar in style to that illustrated in the Webley & Scott Wholesale catalogue for the 400 & 500 series shotguns. This series of shot guns was sold in three grades with the top grades very elaborately engraved. Amen....pass the plate.
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This was my great grtandfather's gun and i wont be selling it. I would like to restore it to keep in the family.
Where can i view the Webley scott wholesale catalog?
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Rick, You can purchase a copy of the 1914 Webley and Scott Wholesale catalogue from the following sources: Hereward Books, U.K. Origional, scarce, 200 pounds,[near the value of your gun in its present state!] Tide Line Books, Rhyl, Wales, U.K. Their product number 112/116 a reproduction of the original ,40 pages,10x8 inches. Price 17 pounds approx., F.Y.I. Similar guns to yours by Webley and Scott,but in very good order, sold between 600-1200 pounds at recent Bonhams and Holts Auctions held in London, with several guns in this estimated price range going unsold.
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Finding a similar age Webley & Scott might be the least expensive way to get a set of barrels to have fitted to your action and stock. Still the need for a pro to put it together, but perhaps less expensive, and the mixed serial numbers should not be an issue for a family keepsake.
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Mr Hebbes is right. It's a money pit. You'll sink far more into it than it's worth. Don't bother.
Just leave it as-is and keep it around as a way to remember your great grandfather.
And you can't restore it. You can refinish it, rechecker it, restock it, sleeve it, etc, and write a lot of checks to have the work done. But it will never be the gun it was when new - value or condition wise.
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The gun is a piece of American gunmaking history. It is not just a Scott. Listen to Mr. Petrov, he is the one with his finger on the pulse of the market. If this was Just another Scott, it would not be worth doing. It is a Kornbrath engraved gun.....well worth putting right in my mind. Take the time to correspond with Mr. Petrov, he will point you in the right direction regarding this gun.
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The subject gun was likely engraved by Joe Brown chief engraver for Webley and Scott or one of his contemporaries such as Harry Morris. Joe was possibly one of the finest engravers practicing in the first two decades of the 20th century.Joe was also the engraving instructor at the Aston Technical School during this era. Joe's work on the Scott Premier and Imperial Premier guns is still well regarded.
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I should hope the engraving on this fine toe'mato stake is not a best example of his work....
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