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I'd hope everyone pays attention to what Lagopus has posted about that rifle failure.
I'll relate a similar tale that involved an individual shooting a factory 12 ga. 32 gram shot shell that had been rolling back & forth on the dashboard of a pickup truck for quite a while, a few years in the Texas heat & cold. It was fired at a rattlesnake in a modern pump shotgun w/double action bars & it blew the receiver and the back [chamber] portion of that gun up. It was a catastrophic failure & resulted in destruction of the first order. It did not result in an injury, but could have just as easily, IMHO. It is quite likely that the powder in that cartridge had become 'dust' and as such had zero deterrent and an exponetially increased surface area. In other words, the powder detonated rather than burned. FWIW, The dif in defs between burning and detonation in the simplest of terms is the speed or burning rate, if you will. Thanks for posting this. You guys may have saved me a ruptured barrel and potential injury. I have an old 12ga shell that I found in the back of a cargo van that I traded for. I thought "what the heck" and threw it in my range box. Was planning to shoot it next time out. I think instead I'll cut it open and reclaim the shot. Will let you know what the powder looks like.
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A member of the LCSCA just talked with H.P. White Laboratory, in Maryland. They will proof Damascus barrels for $500 to a pressure of 20,000 psi, or the pressure desired, and will allow the owner to watch the procedure www.hpwhite.com He has not yet decided whether to proceed, and if someone here does use the service, please let us know how things work out.
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Pressure testing it to his order will give him peace of mind....but for how long. As recommended, he should have the barrels wall thickness checked especially in the critical areas and shoot low pressure low velocity loads that are under 8,000 psi.
For us that own old sxs it is almost imperative to reload your own to say within this range.
It would be nice if they stated how many rounds they put through your barrels for this testing.
David
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When I first started trying to reload in the 60s, I had an Ithaca Model 37 twenty gauge. As it turned out, the end of my reloading session left a shell with no shot. The nest time out I fired the shotless shell , and then another. You know what happened. The wad from the first firing had stuck [near the choke] and the second shot exploded the barrel similar to the banana peel fashion one used to see in cartoons. I do remember it took much effort to saw off the damaged portion [about 6 inches]. Very tough steel.
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This happened to a buddy this season. He had just picked the gun up from Cabelas and was shooting it in preparation for a grouse hunt with me the next weekend. A 16ga Remington 48. Factory load. No one was hurt, fortunately. 
Last edited by shinbone; 01/09/14 08:18 PM.
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