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Thieme & Schlegelmilch, trademark "Nimrod", Steinweg 27, Suhl, protected their "Nimrod - Verschluss" = Nimrod lockup by DRGM 136215 in May 1900.
Here is a cut of a Nimrod hammergun from O. Maretsch: "Moderne Jagdwaffen", Berlin 1910

My Nimrod Drilling was built 11/37 so Funk must have kept the Nimrod name..

For me it's easy to see why you love them!! They're usually gorgeous and not to be faulted. I find myself grabbing mine more and more frequently for my "woods walk".

Mark, thank you for the link and suggestion. It would be interesting to put a name with the engraving.

You should read Peter Ravn Lund's book "Christoph Funk - Gewehrfabrik Suhl"(available from the GGCA bookstore), pages 28 - 29. Thieme & Schlegelmilch was not simply "absorbed" by Chr.Funk, the story is a bit more complicated. It is important to add Chr. to the Funk name, as there were no less than 38 Funks active at one time or another in the Suhl and Zella-Mehlis area. The Chr. Funk company in 1934 was owned by Ernst Funk. Ernst's oldest son, Alfred Christoph Funk bought Thieme & Schlegelmilch on February 1, 1934, but ran it as a separate business. In 1937 A.C.F. moved the T&S shop to his father's factory premises at Gothaer Strasse 18. From then on both "Chr.Funk" and "Nimrod" guns were made by the same men in the same factory to the same designs, but were signed and sold by by two financially independent companies until 1945. So it was a cooperative of two companies sharing a factory. BTW, Rob's "Nimrod" drilling is essentially a Chr.Funk "Jubil�umsdrilling 1835 -1935, Modell II", featuring a light action body made from high strength steel, Blitz-/trigger plate locks and Funk's tumbler-locking safety.

I ran across a "Nimrod" 16ga earlier this year. I bought a nice drilling and the dealer had a "Nimrod" with no other label. Wanted a little too much for a gun I was not sure of.

I just spent 2 days quail shooting with this gun. I brought home 65 birds. Very nice shooter.

Kuduae,

Thank you for the information concerning my "Nimrod" drilling. Several years ago I brought it up to Sandinona to show Dietrich Appel and he told me he had never seen a Nimrod with that type of safety and insisted on taking photos for the German Gun Collectors Society.

BTW, I find the safety could have been better designed for a right handed shooter.

"Stepped water table" is actually a beautiful translation of yours, much better chosen indeed than the original (and stupid) German term "Nasenverschluss". 🫡👍

While the engineering expression "Nase" does of course have a due place in gunsmithing lingo, exempli gratia for a rising bit (rising stud), it is very much inadequate for describing this (simple but charming) contraption, which in the 2020s fad jargon would probably be called a "hack".

In proper German for engineering and patent-applications (which T&S did not care to use), one could call it maybe "Verschlussabstützung durch Stufe", or looser and a bit more imprecise, "Falz".

Regards, Carcano

„Verschlussabstützung dutch Stufe“ sounds a bit like a tongue twister whilst „Falz“ just doesn't seem to go far enough¿





>>You should read Peter Ravn Lund's book "Christoph Funk - Gewehrfabrik Suhl"(available from the GGCA bookstore), pages 28 - 29. Thieme & Schlegelmilch was not simply "absorbed" by Chr.Funk, the story is a bit more complicated. It is important to add Chr. to the Funk name, as there were no less than 38 Funks active at one time or another in the Suhl and Zella-Mehlis area. The Chr. Funk company in 1934 was owned by Ernst Funk. Ernst's oldest son, Alfred Christoph Funk bought Thieme & Schlegelmilch on February 1, 1934, but ran it as a separate business. In 1937 A.C.F. moved the T&S shop to his father's factory premises at Gothaer Strasse 18. From then on both "Chr.Funk" and "Nimrod" guns were made by the same men in the same factory to the same designs, but were signed and sold by by two financially independent companies until 1945. So it was a cooperative of two companies sharing a factory. BTW, Rob's "Nimrod" drilling is essentially a Chr.Funk "Jubiläumsdrilling 1835 -1935, Modell II", featuring a light action body made from high strength steel, Blitz-/trigger plate locks and Funk's tumbler-locking safety.<<

I meant to tell Axel E. that I couldn't read and it is that which fosters my ignorance.....

Anyway his info from Lund's text goes a long, long way in explaining why Chr. Funk is purported to have made all but one of the Vom Hofe chambered rifles.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
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To Recoil Rob--I have a Christoph Funk Jubilaum which also has that safety. I like the way it operates better than a standard Greener safety as I find the Greener harder to manipulate. My Funk is also quite the engraving delight. It is my favorite gun overall in my collection and I use it a lot. BTW, if yours has the flat topped dovetail for a clip on scope mount, (and if you don't have the top ring assembly) you may be surprised to find that the dovetail is approximately 16mm--same as a CZ 527 rifle. I had to file to tighten just a bit, but it is an easy fix for scope use. Can't remember if I had to remove a recoil stop from the bottom. It goes on with a screwdriver. I made 2 consecutive shots, 3" apart on a deer at a lasered 250 yd. distance from atop a bluff. That's the longest shot at game I have taken to date, and with a drilling!
Enjoy a fine gun!