Walt, the new poster, "murphy" is not me. However, I will gladly examine anything you bring to Sanford. I will shoot my first skeet birds since my surgery this coming Sunday at a two gun shoot at Talbot Gun Club on the Shore. I haven't shot a registered bird since 2005 on doctor's orders mostly. I'm breaking in a new crossover stock and have no idea of my possible degree of success. I'll fill you in. Bill Murphy (eightbore). By the way, I just sold my wonderful old NID 16 gauge skeet to a friend and shooting buddy so you won't have to worry about that one.