One of my faverate grouse and woodcock guns is My Churchill XXV 2 inch 12 Imperial sidelock. It smokes skeet targets with its 7/8 oz. of shot,[RST] and seems to do pretty well on wild birds as well. Luckily, it fits me well, so I let "the force" prevail. Oh yeah,it weighs 5# 4 oz.

Best,

Mal