I didn't plan on getting into this but in a lot of ways I agree with Rich, I've been going to DR for over nine years shoot there twice, six stations for sporting clays (CB that's a WtF ! ) waiting to shoot 15 to 25 minutes eight to ten shots per station, sorry not for me. Yes I go to see old friends and watch the Parker/LC challenge. Also if Bill didn't have the two "collector groups" how big would this shoot be? As Rich said I want to be able to shoot, Drakes Landing is a beautiful course, people are great and nice, so I go there and shoot a couple hundred rounds which I can't do at Deep River and then go back to DR to spend time with friends and spend money on food and drinks and spend money with the vendors that support DR. How is that wrong?