Hey folks, my 2 cents worth is that I had an ithaca Lewis model in 10 gauge that fit reasonably well-the pull was 13 7/8 & don't remember the drop but was reasonable for my stature.The odd thing was that if you sat your target on the rib the hit was very low as in 3 1/2 to 4 feet at 35 yards,however if you blacked out the target completely it did the job quite nicely-incoming, outgoing,or pass shooting made little difference.I ended up giving it to a pal that shoots skeet a lot and he loves it,he almost can't miss with it.Might be something to that thing about blacking out your targets-it sure works for him.