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I've got a vintage Parker with a LOP of 13 3/4"
It's a 20 gauge with long barrels and tight chokes.
I've used a Galco slip-on pad to add 1/2" to my LOP but the shaped Silvers pad doesn't sit quite right inside the Galco.
Last evening, I slipped on a Galco barrel guard which sits mostly in front of the forend and when the gun is mounted and my left hand is half on the forend and half on the Galco barrel guard, it feels as if my LOP has been increased by at least 1/2" or more.

With no change between my right arm, my shoulder, the end of my Silvers pad, my trigger finger and the DT's of my gun, what's going on?
Thanks

This is common to all of us.(Assume Right shoulder, Right handed)
The relative position of the LH controls how much the gun clears the body during mounting and how much the gun must come back to settle in the shoulder pocket.If the gun is 1" shorter than our norm moving the LH 1" further forward will make the mount feel the same. It will only be when the mount is complete and the gun fired that the LOP discrepency will show up as such things as thumb in nose, bruised fingers etc.

Back to the future The extended left hand seemed to work well for these fellas

E.D. Fulford, Remington, winner of the 1898 GAH



Charles Grimm, Smith



L�on de Lunden of Belgium. Winner of the once and only demonstration sport of Live Pigeon shooting at the 1900 Paris Olympics; Grand Prix de Exposition Universalle de 1900.



Thomas Marshall, Cashmore, at the 1899 GAH (only two time winner, 97' & 99')

Bob, is that Silvers pad as smashed as it looks?

When hunting in cold weather most of us are attired in thermal underwear, a heavy jacket and sometimes a vest and a heavy shirt. I adjust my forehand to compensate for the different LOP's that clothing necessitates.

I removed it, hermetically sealed it, placed it in a museum where all can enjoy it and had a new Silvers pad professionally fits since that picture was taken.
Mea culpa.

Bob: I've had a similar perceived experience with a 21 Duck I own. The gun has typical 13 5/8" lop to one of those rock hard red Win pads. Normally I shoot 14 1/4-1/2" with ST and 14 7/8" lop with DT, but this Duck model feels pretty good to me as short as it is. It has long 32" barrels and weighs 8 lbs and I think that may have something to do with it. It does not seem LOP is all that impt for a tank of a gun like this Duck.

Hmmm.....32" Duck you say.
Hmmm.....13 5/8" LOP you say.
Hmmm.....Tank you say.

My kingdom for a normal LOP!

To those of you complaining about LOP, I am 6'4" and can tie my shoes without bending over. I dream of the day that I can buy a used gun with a checkered butt. Do you have any idea what a 1 1/2" Silvers pad weighs?
CHAZ

What Hugh said.... If I had a dollar for every time I have seen someone shoulder an English gun with a splinter forend and then hold the forend in the center with a gibbled up left hand and then state that "this stock is 2" too short for me" I need a
16 1/2"LOP.... Not