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S is "Supra" barrel. This was *not* for slug shoooting as much as as for dispersing shot for close range action.
Spot on. The "canon raye" was typically for woodcock guns. I have a Verney-Carron catalog from a few years back, showing an OU with one barrel rifled, the other with choke tubes. It's a 12ga, 61cm (24") barrels. Came with either PG or straight, DT or ST. Weight: 2.5 kg, or 5 1/2 lbs. That model is called a "Grand Becassier", best translated as "Woodcock Special". Beretta offered a somewhat similar OU a few years ago, with a rifled dispersion barrel, for the European market.
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Hello WildCattle, Thank you for the information! Canvasback, here some pictures of a Robust-Idéal I took. Sorry they are not very good:     JC
"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance." Charles Darwin
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Jay-Cee, is that Robust-Ideal yours? Have you shot it or any others? I know you have familiarity with the handling of Ideals...how would you compare?
PS, Your photos are just fine. Always tough on a sunny day. Better than mine usually are!
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Dear (R) WTF ?
I am wondering what you are trying to say , as others must be, by the meaning of your...
"Persoannly, I'd give it back to George, if it his Granger shotgun, why give it to another fellow--??.
Did Mac own a Granger?...If he did, how could he give it back after he dies? or are you living vicariously via a dead Scottish/American gun writer that you've never met?
DGJ did an article a good few years ago on a few "Froggy" Guns, as you crassly say,(not that I'd call you a racist) & I believe our fine , late friend Bill Wise was involved, there were Guyots, Grangers,& I believe also some of the ones talked of here..& others I have forgotten.
So what was your point? I forgotit , if there was one.
franc
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Hello Canvasback,
No the R-I is not mine, it was offered to me some time ago and no I did not shoot it.
I suppose it wouldn't be too different from an Idéal as the main variation is the barrels that I assume are slightly heavier.
It might still be for sale locally. I can ask if you want.
JC
"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance." Charles Darwin
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Fox,
For what it's worth...I sincerely believe that if we met, names unknown to either of us at a gunshow or a casual sporting clay shoot, we could end up being friends.
Just this typing stuff is weird...lack of nuance, I guess.
I didn't mean to sound rude in my last one, well I guess I did, but now regret it.Sorry.
But sometimes your posts drive me nuts.
But thank you for your service .That might sound weird from a brit living here after you served, but I hope you know what I mean...
cheers
franc
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