I ordered the Mark borne again pad. It is 5 3/4 in long which the others I have looked at weren't that long. Thanks for the hair dryer idea I'll try that. I just didn't want to start jack hammering on it. I can fit a piece and put on a pad.Also it looks like it had those big fat screws that usually hold the english pad on that were gone.Where do I get those ?


monty