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Hi, just a quick comment, Ugartechea never joined DIARM, AyA did but was able to survive that little experiment.

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Originally Posted By: gjw
Hi, just a quick comment, Ugartechea never joined DIARM, AyA did but was able to survive that little experiment.

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Actually, AyA did not survive DIARM. AyA, and the other makers who joined DIARM, went out of business to do so. The present day AyA is a new company that was created after DIARM closed, and was created by some of the DIARM people who acquired the rights to the AyA name and whatever AyA property that had been surrendered to DIARM remained at the time DIARM closed.

Never confuse the pre and post DIARM AyA companies; they are two different animals.

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Cole Haugh did some work on my gun. I second the notion he is a good guy to use on a Spanish double.
Let me be clear, there was nothing wrong, he just supplied a second set of strikers, the tool to remove the discs, and did some maintenence/fitting stuff. Like getting rid of the white line spacer stuff that adorned the gun, and putting proper Spanish parts and a pad in their place.
Hope I can find a few pheasants that haven't drowned in all the rain to hunt with it this fall.

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Originally Posted By: Kyrie

Never confuse the pre and post DIARM AyA companies; they are two different animals.


So just curious, how are the two pre and post DIARM AyA companies different? Is one more superior in workmanship quality to the other? Isn't the same Aranzabal family involved in the present company?

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Originally Posted By: Tim Cartmell

So just curious, how are the two pre and post DIARM AyA companies different?
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Its hard to know where to start, as there are more differences than there are similarities.

The pre-DIARM AyA, as a company, emulated Victor Sarasqueta and became an enormous company. That original AyA made most of their own parts, and became so good at making parts they became a major supplier of barrels and locks to the smaller, boutique, gun makers. At peak, the original AyA offered over forty models of shotguns across a huge range of price points, and looked more like a factory than a workshop.

The post-DIARM emerged as a small, boutique, gun maker less than one-tenth the size of the original AyA. It has been through at least three different business models since it was founded. Originally, it tried to offer the same range of AyA gun models as had been offered by DIARM, (about a dozen different guns) and made no attempt to build anything like the range of guns offered by the original AyA. In the most recent business model, they offer fewer than ten different guns (under a dozen or so different model designations), and are attempting to begin making their own barrels.

All that is tip-of-iceberg stuff. Pre and post AyA are so different, and the Spanish shotgun making trade itself is so different between 1980 and now, that these kinds of comparison are just about meaningless.

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