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It was my understanding that the rules regarding bundling came after Clinton, I may well be wrong on that point. I need to look that up. Either way, we are pretty much in agreement.


Wrong again Lefty...

"After the last Depression, Congress enacted a law, Glass-Steagall, which forbid banks, insurance companies, and investment houses to be in the same institution, to deter reckless speculation with depositors' money, which was seen as a major contributor to the stock market instability of the time. Then in 1999, at the height of the "Deregulation" craze, Citigroup and Travelers merged, a clear violation of Glass-Steagall. But rather than enforce the law, Congress repealed the prohibitions of Glass-Steagall with the passage of the 1999 Financial Services Act.

That opened the floodgates for runaway financial speculation. Wall Street knew that if they made money they would be allowed to keep it, but if their investments lost money, the US Government would step in to transfer the losses to the American people, because that is what had been demonstrated during the S&L debacle of the 1980s."

That's what led to the creation of Mortgage Backed Securities and "sub-prime" mortgages being bundled into securities which were foisted onto the market.

Uh, I think it was your boy Clinton that was in power in 1999. He signed the bill repealing provisions of Glass-Steagall. It was "The Financial Services Act of 1999". Oh, and the massive outsourcing of jobs that led to millions being unable to pay their mortgages started with Bill Clinton signing NAFTA... the atomic bombed dropped on the working class who foolishly elected him. Selling out the middle class is what turned "risky" mortgages into foreclosures. Democrats own the biggest financial meltdown since the Great Depression. But you can claim you never saw this because you are too cowardly to respond to me. I however, can still show everyone else what a lying disingenuous two-faced ass you are.


Yes, blow job Billy, another big loser and draft dodger libtard hero, repealed the Glass-Steagall act of 1932 that had been in place to protect the public since 1933 and signed it's repeal into law on November 22, 1999.......two faced Steve-SKB has no clue Keith, you can't fix stupid.

So Bush gets blamed for the Democrat liberal debt load that was passed on to the taxpayers because the Democrat Libtards wanted every ghetto dweller to have a house even if they could never pay for it....all at the tax payers expense.......

As I said, the Democrats pass on their Bullshit Mess and financial crisis to the Republicans to clean up.....one only has to look at Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Feinstein, Boxer and all the other degenerates who call themselves Democrats and do the math if you have a working brain.

This next mess will really be a Duesy......





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Hey cback. Thanks for your comments up on that dove hunting thread. Good example of unilaterally imposed regs, and kind of fits with the more bunk from the lefties theme. The right may be there to purchase a box of sporting shells, but the risk to joe little guy can make it very distasteful to carry on and pass along hunting traditions to the next generation.

Still, go get 'em out on the dove field. Absolute fun wing shooting, and nothing like some would say shooting tweety birds off the backyard feeder.

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Doug, I work best in conversation, not single definitive expositions. Over the course of today, and over a number of posts, you ( and Keith) did an excellent job of answering the questions I was really trying to get to. Thanks to you both.

Now, I'm not much of one for making deals with the left (despite your belief that I may, Keith) but I'm all for making deals with my more moderate fellow conservatives to ensure a CONSERVATIVE government gets elected.

Now someone needs to post something thought provoking. I'm out of gas right now. tired


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No problem Craig. Most everyone here is overwhelmingly helpful when asked. It is a joy to be here. At the same time, I could see an opportunity to shed a little light for my American friends here about the behavior and regulations concerning guns and ammunition that I knew most of you would be blissfully unaware of.

I mean really, how many of you knew border security is involved in casing out hunters at gun shows to catch them illegally taking out of the country a flat or two of shells. That's a hell of an administration you guys put in power! LOL


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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Now, I'm not much of one for making deals with the left (despite your belief that I may, Keith) but I'm all for making deals with my more moderate fellow conservatives to ensure a CONSERVATIVE government gets elected.


THAT...gets to the root of what I, and others, have been saying for about the last 6 or 7 pages. I know it's not you James! The problem we have is a small number of so-called gun guys like SKB who bend over backwards and swear up and down that they are moderates, Independants, or even Conservative in their leanings... but they continually attempt to push the Libtard agenda and provide cover for Liberal Left candidates and dogma. We can't deal with these types because they are constantly working to make certain that a Conservative government never gets elected. Even when they act like they are trying to help, you can bet the help is meant to weaken you. You can see the "Hope and Change" bumperstickers on their Prius from 1000 miles away and even over the internet. But they will go on-and-on in denial... to the point where they will ignore you, or hurl the same kind of insults that they constantly preach against.

But then it all comes pouring out like a tearful confession from a killer who is haunted by nightmares from his crime. We've seen the same thing before from OWD, Dave-in-Maine, etc. who deny supporting the extreme anti-gun politicians. Call them out on it and they go into full denial mode. But just go back and reproduce a quote from the past that proves they are liars and you become the enemy. At least most of them are smart enough to just disappear for awhile at that point. SKB (Lefty Stevie) just keeps making hard Leftist turns directly into the wall. Then he goes back and tries to appear centrist again before making yet another hard Leftist turn that shows his abject dishonesty.

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I mean really, how many of you knew border security is involved in casing out hunters at gun shows to catch them illegally taking out of the country a flat or two of shells. That's a hell of an administration you guys put in power! LOL


That's just the tip of the Liberal Left Democrat iceberg James... coming to, or at you from the "most transparent administration in history." This is what some of our so-called gun guys here voted for and still support. It's what your countryman King Brown pees his pants over, and calls 'Cerebral and Eloquent." You might be the lone voice of reason from Canada, but the Burger King drowns you out because he has nothing better to do than come here hundreds of times to use our First Amendment to undermine our Second Amendment and advance the Socialist Liberal Left Democrat agenda.

I'm proud to stand up and say I voted for Romney. Not by any means the perfect candidate, but absolutely the only rational choice left in November 2012. So-called gun guys like Lefty Stevie can't admit things like that. They have no courage of conviction. They are gutless, yet act like a rabid rat when backed into a corner. They go out of their way to conceal the fact that they support the very political philosophy that threatens our country AND our Right To Keep And Bear Arms! But they keep forgetting to scrape off that damn "Hope and Change" bumper sticker, and then get mad at me for pointing it out. What dicks!


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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well, i know Steve and you are incorrect. and i think our Canadian friend is correct in that to win an election we need all the votes we can get that includes moderates,in the Romney election the southern baptist voters stayed away in droves.i think a lot of them consider Morman a cult.i voted for Romney i thought he was the right guy with the right background for the problems the country faced.i have a question,why do you guy's go to the intelligence or lack of intelligence insults in this discussion.prove your point if you can and move on.my name is Mark Cooper and i'm an engraver, gunsmith. you can look me up.we need every voter to end this downward spiral of our nation.

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Originally Posted By: mc
....i think our Canadian friend is correct in that to win an election we need all the votes we can get that includes moderates,in the Romney election the southern baptist voters stayed away in droves.i think a lot of them consider Morman a cult....

....i voted for Romney i thought he was the right guy with the right background for the problems the country faced....


I don't believe anyone thought Romney was a radical right wing candidate, most saw him as moderate. He seems to fit the qualification, but he looses because his own constituents are at fault.

The left says the right is racially prejudice, the right says the right is religiously prejudice. I'm glad you voted on the issues. I also thought Romney might have brought solid economic and managerial skills to the table, based on track record not campaigning.

Since '08 Mark, how has your tax burden, regulatory restrictions, cost of living increases affected your ability to do business and make a living. Steve says he doesn't like some things, but apparently there is no affect to his burden or he's willing to accept it.

I'm not interested in anyone's private affairs, just curious if folks are or feel better off over the last five or six years. Does anyone perceive a healthier, happier, more productive and tolerant country springing up around them.

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I for one am retired and living on a fixed income. Just the rise in the cost of food should give everyone pause today. I do a lot of our grocery shopping and I've become increasingly concerned with the escalating prices. I realize that a lot of the price increase is energy driven from the cost of producing to the cost to truck it to a retail location.
Until we get agressive in searching out and producing more energy I see no end to this escalation in sight.
IMO: If you've felt better off over the last 5 years you are truly living in a paralllel universe.
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Originally Posted By: mc
well, i know Steve and you are incorrect. and i think our Canadian friend is correct in that to win an election we need all the votes we can get that includes moderates,in the Romney election the southern baptist voters stayed away in droves.i think a lot of them consider Morman a cult.i voted for Romney i thought he was the right guy with the right background for the problems the country faced.i have a question,why do you guy's go to the intelligence or lack of intelligence insults in this discussion.prove your point if you can and move on.my name is Mark Cooper and i'm an engraver, gunsmith. you can look me up.we need every voter to end this downward spiral of our nation.


Lefty Stevie's posts just within this single thread has him swaying back and forth between moderate and far left. The ones that show some small support for Conservatism, I think, are nothing but a put on. Virtually all of his previous Misfires posts have demonstrated a strong and unmistakable Liberal bias. There was nothing any of us could have said or shown him that would have made him vote for anyone other than the Anti-Gun Socialist Community Organizer Obama. No-one who voted for either of Obama's challengers would ever pop up so frequently to support the Liberal view. We're not stupid... even though it was your good buddy who first hurled the "moron" word at me in his post number 374903, and called Doug a pompous and self righteous ass in the same post.

Glad you're on the Conservative side Mark, and glad that you can see the incredible damage that the current administration is doing. I hope you can convince a lot of like minded moderates and conservative to go to the polls in November to try some damage control until 2016. But I think you'd be wasting your breath on your disingenuous little buddy. I, for one, don't waste my time trying to convert or convince Libtards. But I enjoy proving them wrong, and I especially enjoy outing the ones who pretend to be something they're not.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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The problem with the Republican Party is "rotten core" of Fundamentalist Christians. Sadly same people that made Romney loose also blamed him for loosing the election. The inability to move from right toward the center thus gathering more votes is going to continue bringing losses.

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