I apologize for the delay in my response Ken,
the youngster learning to engrave firearms (at my expense) works at a clockshop I frequent. I provided a couple junk actions that need engraving repairs, and he's learning to recut (ideally invisibly) take smoke pulls, annealing, yada, yada, When he gives me back "The Hollenbeck", in proper form, I'll give him tougher assignments. He's done some wonderful scroll cutting on some time pieces. He's got potential, But he's green.

Out there doing it best I can.