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The writer has deliberately stressed the most frightening and unthinkable aspects of ultimate gun control, even to the lurid imagery of "grandma and her walker" being aggressively confronted by police. What he has written should scare the hell out of anyone who believes in civil rights. And that, I believe, is his intention.

There is a bitter little secret pertaining to the imigration issue, and why no elected government is interested in closing the borders, or expelling illegal workers.

As a whole, they pay taxes. Foremost among those, social security taxes. That they will never collect. It is the ace in the hole of the great ponzi scheme (social security) foisted on depression weary Americans by the democrats, and now clearly understood by every politician.

IF anyone wanted the US border with Mexico closed, it could be done in a week, with existing technology and military precision-it's called a minefield. It would be no trick at all, and, likely, cheaper than any stupid, ineffective fence some politico dreamed up. It will never happen, as, like it or not, the ponzi scheme is now and future dependant on the theft of funds from undocumented workers. The ponzi scheme WILL collapse under the weight of itself, but, it is in the best interest of currently elected officials to see that that happens as far down the road from their election, as possible.

The undocumenteds, are, a freebie. Too valuable for any elected politician to squander.

The discussion of the authors writings, and as to whether they are satirical in nature misses the point-he clearly articulates what anti-gun groups want to hear, and gives foundation to their ongoing attempts to make their wishes so, at the expense of whatever liberties (and, they are few) remain in contemporary US society. The battle cry of the 'weeni "If it saves even one life", has been used preempt too much of what we once took for granted, and I find no satire in it anymore, regardless of the intent of the writer.

Just for the record, I don't believe it was satire, anymore than I believe it was satire to create completely unarmed and defenseless college campuses for psychotic cowards to exploit in their final meltdowns. Even if that is what it seems like, in hindsight.
Best,
Ted

Too bad the Jews didn't have more help, and more guns. It would have been good to see more of those german nazi bastards dead!

Too bad our black slaves didn't have more help, and more guns, too. It would have been good to see more of those slaveowners dead.

Seriously, consider the history of the white exodus to America from European oppression, and the black exodus from Africa to New World plantations.

Over time we recognized oppression as a denial of our most cherished values. Over time, societies will find a balance with safety and our use of guns.

And, Jagermeister, we wouldn't have needed to go overseas to find fascist Bunds and Nazi sympathisizers in our midst. No one picked up guns because they were us.

Canadian agents were involved in "wet" operations in New York City. I knew one personally. "Accidents" happened while the US was out of the war. Cars.

Don't forget the UN's roll in all of this. They will be the "special squad" that will enforce the confiscation. Foreign para military officers that hate America and the wealth that we have made for ourselves will all be up for grabs when they are taking our guns. Our own police and military won't have the stomach for this sort of thing.

For Gus and others in the gun community, who have pointed out how little attention, as a whole, is paid this issue [confiscatory gun laws as inevitable] in comparison to our 'fun' things:

If we lose this fight, it will be our own fault. A great deal of the opposition is hell-bent on MAKING everyone think their way. In fact, their identity and self-image requires that it be validated by that forcing of conformity. Those Who Would Rule Everything call it diversity, of course.

However good the NRA is at FIGHTING, we really have no plan for WINNING. The Aunties have definite and well-defined plans for winning -- permanently. The great majority of the ground work is being laid outside of this country, funded by George Soros's money, thru both the UN and NGO's [non-governmental organizations].

The gun trade will be killed by offering gun owning and gun producing countries heavy-duty trade and international monetary advantages, as an inducement to get on board with the International Civilian Disarmament movement. By going thru industrial and trade financing routes, the great majority of countries in the world may be hauled aboard that bandwagon.

As most of these countries already do not want civilian ownership of guns, or recognize the right of self defense, it will take little effort to cease production of firearms for civilians. That will be supported an overwhelming UN majority, OUTSIDE of gun owning countries and hailed with very good propaganda INSIDE the few remaining civilian gun owning countries. Whether it takes ten years or twenty or thirty, the long term goal is to isolate the US as a gun owning AND gun producing nation, while continuing with a strong propaganda program internally here.

Once when in South Africa [20 years ago] I spoke extensively with gun owners and gunstore owners, who were all for cooperating with the government on registration of guns and owners. After all, they reasoned, "It's our government; why not work with it?" How wrong they were, when it ceased to be their government and fell into the hands of Leftist Nationals.

The Aunties must be faced and beaten Internationally, and to do that a specialized group of international employees and proper financing is need. Otherwise, unless there is some widespread national calamity, where individual possession of means to effective defense becomes a widespread premium, then the apathy and indifference of gun owner will be the rock around the ankle that sinks them.

Non of the above is speculation or fantasy: it is exactly the well-publicized and well known plans of the Soros and the UN organizations. As well, the Socialist functionaries of the EU in Brussels are REALLY eager to wipe out the civil gun trade. It's 'a cause'. And, it has first class propaganda, with wonderful and creative artistry.

It's just that as group, we can't even conceive of the idea "wants to rule the world." Who would want to? Why? and etc.? We don't care fanatically and obsessively about forcing our views onto other people. We just want to be free to peacefully pursue our lives. Our bad, I guess?

So it goes in the history of humanity: from political and economic power to the worn out submission of a society with debased values, in a relatively few generations.

Well said JohnM. Unfortanately few on this board or in the population as a whole in this country realize the great conspiracy that we are involved in today. The information is there smacking us in the face and people still can't see it. They can't see the manipulation or the fact that we are being lead like sheep to slaughter. We are being hit on many fronts and it isn't just the gun issue. The illegal alien and specifically Mexican problem is not by accident. That would never have happened in 1960. Is this nation doomed? Only time will tell but I fear that we don't have much time left. Most feal that a six pack in the frig and the game is on,every thing else doesn't matter.

I think a valid question of "What we can do to fight this trend on an individual basis?" needs to be raised here. One of the disturbing things I have noted over the years is the appalling lack of basic firearms knowledge within the general public. The antis of course prefer to keep it that way and that's why they have so vehemently fought against traing programs for adolescents such as the NRAs Eddie Eagle program. The antis along with unions like the ultra-libera teachers union have made sure that the remaining high school marksmanship programs have been eliminated.
I along with my wife who is also an avid shooter combat this ignorance trend every chance we get by trying to educate people. We have found that there is a genuine interest in understanding firearms as long as you approach the subject in a diplomatic and low key manner. We have taken many people over to our local gun club some of whom have never handled a firearms before in their lives. Most of these people come away with at least a better understanding and generally a far more positive outlook particularly when they see how strongly firearms safely is stressed. I believe it is also very positive for these individuals to see whole families there shooting together.
We had a very interesting event at our club a couple of weeks ago that I personally have never seen before. A twelve year old celebrated his birthday by having a shooting session at the club with around a dozen of his male and female friends and two parental chaperones. Our club staff provided assistance and supervision and the kids all seemed to be having a great time. It sure beats the heck out of a Chuck Cheese pizza party as far as I'm concerned.
Jim

When America stops signing, "We are the world," we'll be better off. What happens in Europe, stays in Europe!
Time for the world to get larger again, and the more walls, and the higher the better.

But Lowell - how would the Eurowannabes at SSBB get their Barbours, breeks and Le Chameaus?