Thank you for that link. I quickly ran through 23 pages of his posts but didn't see anything related to those guns. I probably scrolled too fast. The gun in that picture is the unfinished 20 gauge that I have. I guess he was separated from the 12 at some point. He sold the 16 & 20 to the person that I got them from. I will take and post a picture of the bottom of the receiver tomorrow when I get home from teaching the redfish a lesson. I really appreciate your help.