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Where can I purchase 10 gauge brass shotshells? Any tips on reloading and using them would be appreciated. Thanks.

Track of the Wolf.


http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1210/10/SHOT-SHELL-10-2-78


They make them in 2 5/8" as well.

You can do what I used to do and take modern plastic shells and cut the case down with a razor blade. That way you can use 209 primers too. Everything else is the same per TofTW's directions, in fact I used to use 9 gauge wads as well though 10 gauge would've worked better in the thicker plastic shell (I had a bunch of 9 gauge wads left over from a 9 gauge muzzle loader).

Guys, a quick word about TOW 10 ga brass shells. They advertise them as fitting Parker guns. I ordered a dozen to use in my 10 ga Remington 1894 and most of them would only go into my chamber about half way. When I called the TOW guys to inquire about this, I was told that they based the size off the Parker 10 ga guns they personally owned. So I borrowed a friend's Marlin goose gun to see if they would go into it's chamber and they did. Then I ran into another guy with a Rem 1894, and those shells wouldn't fit in his chambers either.

So, I got out my dial calipers and measured the shells and compared the actual measurements to the SAAMI specs for 10 ga 2 7/8 shells. Every hull was over the SAAMI specs. While I didn't take chamber casts of my gun, I did also measure Federal hulls used in RST loads and found that the RST hulls came in a couple of thousand under SAAMI specs and slid into and out of the chambers of my gun as they should.

So, I contacted Rocky Mountain Cartridge and had them make me up a dozen shells. They are made to SAAMI specs and I've had no problems with fit or function in my gun. Oh yes, if you ask them to cut them for 209 primers, they will.

Mergus

Buffalo Arms has 10 gauge brass hulls.

http://www.buffaloarms.com/Brass_shotgun_shells_pr-3832.aspx

Good to know about the tight chambers in some antique guns. I have two 10 ga. hammer Parkers, and the Track hulls fit perfect. Out of curiosity after reading your post, I measured my Track hulls, and they all come in within SAAMI specs. Granted they were towards the high end of the tolerances, but well within specs. After talking to the guys at Track when I ordered them, I know they are a fairly new product for them, so it could be possible they have tweaked tolerances on them after getting some feed back about the fit in other guns. The problem with antique guns (especially antique 10 ga. guns) is that they rarely conform to modern specifications.

I guess the only way to know for sure is to take a chamber casting of your gun and compare measurements.

Similar issues with 12 gauge Magtech brass hulls in one of my Baker guns. Hull measures at or slightly over spec but won't chamber. I reverted back to Federal paper hulls with 3 dram 1 1/8oz target loads and 3 1/4 dram 1 3/16oz hunting loads.

Parker, I believe made an A (the TOTW copy) and a B sized brass shell for a 10, and guns were chambered for one or the other, there was a slight difference in the specs

I don't have my Parker Story books handy at the moment, but I will confirm when I can if no one else comments in the mean time


BTW - my Parker ten will chamber the original Parker A size, as well as original Winchester and UMC 2 7/8 brass, so I am guessing the A was the standard chamber size

It should be a pretty simple matter to make(or have made) a simple "ring" die to size the TOTW cases to fit the chamber. Once they are fired in the gun in question, there should be no more problem.
Mike

Rocky Mountain Cartridge manufactures lathe turned hulls in all gauges, google to contact. The hulls can be loaded with recipes found in reloading manuals and powder manufacture's data for straight walled hulls. Yes, that means 209 primers and 1-piece plastic wads or card and fiber wads. RMC hull are expensive as in $5 a copy, but can be reloaded over 3k times. I have these hulls in 4 different gauges and load them to exclusion of all others for hunting. Reloading requires simple hand tools. The old Lee Loader is perfect for the job or you can make the tools or RMC makes beautiful hand tools at a price. Shot containment is accomplished using 1 gauge oversized
over shot cards (OSC) and a little glue where the card meets the interior of the hull.
Brass hulls expand to chamber size and providing your chambers are the identical you will never have to resize the hulls. MY AyA 16 GA chambers were not standard and the hulls didn't fit. RMC mic'd the AyA's chambers and turned new hulls for no charge. Either mic your chambers or have a gun smith do so to ensure proper fit.
I can't explain why, but the patterns that I get from Brass hulls are outstanding. I have been loading all brass hulls hunting loads for over 8 years and couldn't be happier with the results.