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Once again, Ed is just part of the problem.

Unfortunately there are a lot of dealers out there that like to make up their own laws of extensions of the laws. I suppose they have the right to run their business any way they want. The best you can do is not do business with them because of it.

And it is not Illegal to enter an Antique into an A&D book. It is supposed to be entered as an "Antique" as the type of firearm.
And the dealer is supposed to have proper Identification to verify age of receiving person on the other end.

As you may know I have been doing this for 40 years. I have had through those years many inspections by the ATF. All of the inspectors that I have had have always come from non firearms background. Most are not fully familiar with guns. When you have a gun in question that is considered an antique, you must be able to prove to the inspector that it is in fact an antique, and of course that must satisfy them. I am happy to accept collectors license, but many dealers will not as they do not want any ATF issues.

Best

John Boyd
Quality Arms
Houston, TX

dudley: what exactly is the problem that you claim that i am a part of?

and, since the early eighties, we have reserved the right to do business as we see fit...

The ATF can be helpful in clarifying the antique status of some specific guns. I have seen, for example, an official ATF letter acknowledging the antique status of Chilean Model 95 7x57 rifles manufactured by Ludwig Loewe and so stamped because it is known that Ludwig Loewe was merged into DWM prior to 1899 and that all rifles produced after the merger were stamped DWM, rather than Ludwig Loewe.

Note that the Ludwig Loewe Chilean Model 95 rifles officially acknowledged in writing as antiques by ATF fire standard 7x57 ammunition, still widely available commericially.

An FFL who doesn't honor the laws currently in place is the same thing as a gun control advocate. That makes Ed Good part of the problem. Yes, part of the problem. Unsure of the items status? That's a different story. If you KNOW the gun is an antique then ship it direct.

Don't try to hide behind your supposed conscience when it doesn't bother you to torch guns and sell them to people who don't know any better.

dawg: you got hit wrong twist:

a. i reserve the right to do business within the law as i see fit. and you have the right to do business within the law as you see fit.

b. dont zacky know what you mean by "torch guns". i do no gun work of any kind.

"Don't try to hide behind your supposed conscience when it doesn't bother you to torch guns and sell them to people who don't know any better."

exactly ! You can add with deceptive pictures,a return policy that-in Eds words "works for me". AND is in violation of 478.11 (A private dwelling, no part of which is open to the public, shall not be recognized as coming within the meaning of the term).
Ed Good,antigun Ed Good, is no friend of gun owners and would be more then happy to agree to universal background checks,assault weapon ban and apparently the removal of Antique status !

Yes, indeed check out Eds return policy...it isn't really a return policy at all...who defines "Gross errors?", yep, that would be Ed. here it is....
>>"RETURN POLICY: Returns are handled on an individual basis. You can presume that I know what I am selling. You are expected to know what you are buying. All items are guaranteed to be as advertised. If I make a gross error in description, you may of course, return item with my apology"....

And he won't let you come over n see the guns either, I asked n was told Mail order only, even though I live a half hour away.
No normal 3 day inspection, no nothing if you dont like the gun
So you have to do it all by his pictures
Steer clear of this wanker.
How do you get away with this shit Mr Ed
franc

And there is more proof Ed Good is in violation of 478.11 (A private dwelling, no part of which is open to the public, shall not be recognized as coming within the meaning of the term). He MUST have some regular business hours OPEN to the public !

Yes anyone can run their business ANYWAY they want,let the customers (or victims )decide if they want to deal with them or NOT.

As far as the ATF is concerned you are entitled to be open by appointment only. Those are my hours and the Feds are quite happy with that arrangement. I've worked to years to achieve that status and plan on keeping it that way. As to Antiques, John Boyd hit it on the head. The goal of anyone who holds an FFL is to keep it and make it through your audits in good standing. I have lots of antiques not on the books but if I'm unsure it goes in the bound book.