No doubt that TM is effective stuff - every bit as good as lead; and can be used in any gun in good condition, including “fine” doubles that are not steel shot safe. The problem is that I am strictly an upland hunter and have never been able to find TM in reasonable upland loads. All I can find is usually 1-3/8 oz. of #5 at 1,350 fps. Nasty in a 6 ½ pound 12 bore SxS!! How about one ounce of #6 at 1,200 fps?
Those big loads are deadly at the muzzle end:
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They are really deadly at the other end, too – despite an articulated front trigger and gloves:
This was actually much worse than the pic shows – that finger was swollen and sore for weeks. The effect on my shoulder wasn’t pretty either.