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Ken and James, I agree, but would argue that it is much more intellectually stimulating to debate and argue with someone who is honest. None of you can ever win with King... even if we are 110% correct. In the very next thread, he will be back spouting the very same lies and bullshit that you successfully refuted yesterday. When you eventually tire of refuting the same lies, he wins. If you become adamant in illuminating and suppressing the repeated lies, some Libtard like GLS or Replacement will be along to attempt to vilify you, and make you the target. The "Big Lie" becomes the truth. A page in the Liberal Playbook becomes validated. I told GLS that's not going to happen with me, no matter how much mud he slings my way. I mean that.

Why any of you wish to give a pass to a liar, no matter what the reason, is beyond me. It doesn't take youth, vigor, or strength to operate a keyboard.

Nor does it take intelligence... GLS is proof of that.

I know you mean it, Keith. But I don't have quite the same take on it you do.

I think the few people who read these threads, who read what King posts, and read our response to his posts that posit something that is either factually wrong or can't be proven, get that. Most aren't stupid.

Most people are swayed, not by reason alone but reason combined with emotion. And accurate or not, IMHO, I don't believe you are winning any coverts to our viewpoint by vilifying King at every chance.

Note I said vilifying. One can challenge veracity and prove an earlier statement to be incorrect without getting personal. It may get tedious at times but likely no more tedious than your current approach.

It's not so much "giving him a pass". He'll never directly cede a point or admit that he's wrong. He nimbly pivots on the issue and then asserts either "Moral Equivalencey", or "Denial, Dismissal, and Demonization". When that happens you can be sure your point has struck home. It's kind of refreshing, as if that happened with your normal Leftist, he'd usually experience a massive cognitive dissonance reaction, lose control, and respond emotionally. Once someone breaks down and calls you an A$$hole, the debate is no longer fun.

Behind his anonymous curtain, he insults contrary opinions of those who dare
With a quiver full of childish insults he flings without a care
�I�ve called him a liar and dishonest to boot�,
�He ignores my taunts and doesn�t give a hoot�
When the curtain is lifted all see a bully filled with hot air

Ken, repeatedly calling someone a "liar" repeatedly for years is worse than calling someone an a$$hole. Talk about tanking a discussion. If one had to choose between the two, what is worse? Has King ever called anyone a liar or a$$hole? Gil

No, that's the point. He doesn't. That's one of the most basic rules of the "Art of Persuasion". Once you start name-calling, the ability to persuade ends. I hit King really hard about his ideology, yet never once has he broken down and called me names. I also have tried not to get personal, but I have no problem with trashing King's ideology, using all the Cold War examples and terms. King just "rolls with it". I admire that. Even if, given half the chance, he'd have me packed off for "Reeducation"...

Ken61, he did admit his middle name was "Lenin". Don't know if that is true or not, but it was priceless. He doesn't engage with keith. That drives keith nuts. Why should he? Who would? The few that have ended up in slime fests. Keith thinks his being ignored by King is somehow diabolical or dishonest. Gil

Perhaps we should consider James's point here and just accept King Brown as our befuddled octogenerian "Teller of Tales".

I well remember the 1st time I vacationed in Arizona with my family back in the 70s at a Dude ranch.
One of the old time wranglers told us the cattle would get so thirsty that when it rained even in the slightest they'd lay down, and roll over on their backs with their mouths open.
I can relate this to a liberals understanding and explanation of our economy and also the approach we should take when dealing with ISIS.
Obama has added a who new perspective to just "rolling over" and it will take some doing to recover from it. Nothing K Brown can obfuscate on can change this and fellow Democrats are running away from Obama as fast as they can.
There were other whoppers that were re-told by this wrangler but I've slept a few nights since then. He was very entertaining even though not much of what he related was true. I guess I better add that no cows were harmed during these sessions!
Jim

Yeah, the, "Lenin" admission. That's probably what cemented my view of King, which I detailed in my post shortly after that. He's unabashed about his views, but he's much too subtle to resort to typical Leftist rhetoric. He does a much better job than either Alan Colmes or Bob Beckel, two individuals who essentially attempt to present the same sort of viewpoint. If King was on MSNBC, I might actually WATCH it....

I laughed my ass off at that one!

If King and Keith were weapons, Keith would be the heavy Battleaxe, capable of bludgeoning an opponent as well as cutting him in half, while King is more like a Rapier, forcing an opponent to always be on their guard, as only a couple of inches in the right place could be a disaster.