Originally Posted By: Kyrie
Originally Posted By: Wild Skies
Originally Posted By: Kyrie


As far as using the number of visible pins in the locks to determine model, I can only remark that there are as many Arrieta model 578 guns out there with seven pin locks as with five pin locks :-)

Please show us a few of those Arrieta 578 guns with seven pin locks, many of us would like to see them. Pics or simple links to them would be fine. Oh, by the way, make sure that those that you come up with aren't 803s or others, misidentified as 578s like this one:
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Arrieta-578-Sidelock-Ejector-16-Bore.cfm?gun_id=100514688


If you're actually interested, and not just enjoying being argumentative, get off your butt and do you own research. Remember:

Google Images Is Our Friend.

Use the query string 'Arrieta 578 gun' and you will see any number of Arrieta 578 guns with seven pin locks. You can also see a page from an Arrieta catalog, showing a 578 with (gasp!) seven pin locks.

If you want to get a maker's attention about locks, forget H&H pattern locks and ask to have Purdey pattern locks on your gun. That will get them excited, and run up the cost of the gun by about 2,000 Euro.

Seriously. No one, other than the guys who don't like exposed pins in locks because it breaks up the engraving surface, care how may pins show on the outside of a H&H type of lock. Three pin, four pin, five pin, six pin, seven pin - it doesn't matter. They all work just as well.

Look Kyrie, it's understood that you're extremely sensitive and get uber defensive when someone challenges you. But not to worry, as you're among friends here! smile Hopefully you can get over that soon and we can get on with this discussion just like old pals . . . it was you that made the claim that "there are as many Arrieta model 578 guns out there with seven pin locks as with five pin locks". We're just looking for you to back that claim up. Yes, I saw the ~ 40 year old Arrieta catalog with an illustrator's rendition of a generic 7-pin sidelock with a superimposed image of an engraving pattern on it, but I'll be darned if Google could come up with a few pics of actual guns that have the typical 578 engraving pattern and 7-pin locks. Maybe your Google is different than my Google, so if you would be so kind to provide a few links that shows just how common these 7-pin 578s are we'd be grateful.
TIA,


Wild Skies
Since 1951