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So is Israel really negotiating with terrorists, or are they routinely taking large numbers of prisoners to use later as bargaining chips? If Israel is smart enough to stockpile human bargaining chips, why is the dumbass Obama hell bent on releasing even dangerous terrorists from Gitmo?
What we know for certain is that King Brown is all about defending the anti-gun Liberal Socialist Obama when he would never ever do the same for a pro-gun Conservative.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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....It says no matter what he did, the United States is obligated to bring him back.... Let's say this obligation is so. You miss the point, at what cost and with what message. It's just as valid to carpet bomb until they cry uncle and sent the knucklehead home in a luxury private jet.
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The United States doesn't consider cost in this equation any more than Big Money is phased by cost of commercials for the Super Bowl.
The United States learned carpet bombing doesn't work. Enemies didn't cry uncle in Vietnam and Afghanistan. They framed collateral damage perfectly in their propaganda.
Lose-lose.
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I see what Brown said since Craig quoted it above. He is FOS as usual as we in fact left deserters in Korea after that little fiasco. Jim
The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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I'll leave it for others to google but from memory there were more than 50 Americans who stayed in North Korea, including near half by preference who didn't want to come home.
The US didn't leave deserters by choice. They would have had to fight a tenacious army backed by China to get them, and that wasn't in the cards "after that little fiasco." We were lucky to get out of there.
From my earlier post:
Wall Street Journal---"We don't qualify who we try to recover: He's an American soldier," said Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary. "It doesn't matter how he was taken captive. It doesn't matter under what circumstances he left. It doesn't matter what his persuasions were, political or otherwise. We have an obligation to recover all of those who are missing in action."
That obligation does not include invading a country after an armistice. Note Admiral Kirby's word "try."
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Yes Jim, you are missing the same old shit... more of King Brown talking out of both sides of his mouth and always looking for that little qualifier (weasel words) that makes him right in his mind. Wall Street Journal---"We don't qualify who we try to recover: He's an American soldier," said Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary. "It doesn't matter how he was taken captive. It doesn't matter under what circumstances he left. It doesn't matter what his persuasions were, political or otherwise. We have an obligation to recover all of those who are missing in action."
That obligation does not include invading a country after an armistice. Note Admiral Kirby's word "try." Note that Adm. Kirby didn't say anything about not attempting to bring back a deserter after an armistice... that is King's latest weasel words. The issue here is who and what Obama traded for a deserter. Adm. Kirby's statement was about those "missing in action." Bergdahl was not MIA... he was a deserter. Bergdahl's life was not in imminent danger. This was merely a stunt and a means to reduce the prison population at Gitmo so that Obama could fulfill a foolish campaign pledge. One can imagine that if this was a new war with Korea, Barack Obama would have given the North Koreans either better quality enriched uranium, or intercontinental ballistic missile technology (as Clinton gave to China) in exchange for a deserter. This was another Obama blunder, pure and simple. But remember, this is all about King once again supporting and providing cover for an anti-gun Democrat. King doesn't give a rat's ass about Bergdhal one way or another.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Thanks Keith: I can see I haven't missed anything but more B.S. from the post you uncovered above. I wonder what it takes to get ones mind this warped to try to lie to suppport your position? The United States is not under any obligation to recover deserters and if they are recovered they are to be treated as traitors and dealt with by a military tribunal. The idiot occupying the White House welcomed him home like some kind of hero against all evidence he's exactly as described. A deserter who is responsible for the deaths of other American personnel. Jim
The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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You'll have to take it up with the Pentagon, Stan. It says no matter what he did, the United States is obligated to bring him back. This is Israeli policy as well. Show me where it is Pentagon "policy" to trade five terrorists who will go back and kill more innocents for one deserter. I don't have to take it up with anyone. I did not say it wasn't US policy to try to bring them all home. I don't know the answer to that definitively. What I said was "If I had MY way" ................. Read more closely, Kingston. SRH
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Stan, King can't he will waffle and change the subject and then post something that he can not back up,its his way of trying to "nudge" America into socialism,he feels its his "job" to further the cause.
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Pentagon didn't say anything about foreign policy. It's none of its business what the suits in State and WH do. As I said, take it up with them. Pentagon may recommend but not frame the deal.
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