I've owned them all, BSS, 23, SKB, straight and pistol grips. The Japanese doubles are great using guns. You just have to find one you like. I have kept a BSS 20 with 28 inch barrels and Briley chokes I had stocked for a sporting clays gun, a Miroku pre BSS, pre Daly, double trigger 20 weighing in at an even 6 lbs with 28 inch barrels, and my never to be sold Grouser, an SKB model 100 20 ga. weighing 5 lbs 12 oz. (a niche gun). The SKB is a great gun for an old man--in my late 30's, I could hunt and sometimes hit Grouse with a Ruger Red Label. Those days and reflexes are gone! I have loved the light guns since 60. Today's best value? Either the BSS Sidelock or a Chas. Daly/Western Field Miroku with double triggers, for a lightweight carrying gun, the SKB 100--don't care much for the rest of the SKBs, just not as robust as the Miroku and Winchester guns.