I seem to recall a rather robust discussion on the NID last summer as it relates to value in the vintage American double market. Most certainly would have drawn comparisons to the Sterlingworth and other makers field models.. I myself favor the Philly and early Savage era Sterlingworth's over the one NID I have owned. It was a 16 ga with 26" M/F bbls. Late 30's gun w/o indicators. The NID definitely felt stout and was around 6.5 lbs (probably a few oz more) which was heavy for me and noticeably more than my 16 ga Sterlingworth with 28" bbls. The NID, even as a late 30's gun had 3" DAH as well and I simply didn't shoot it well so we parted ways and I haven't looked back. great guns and value but, I'm a Fox man at heart I suppose. Love these threads.