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Actually, the M10 isn't that tough to figure out. Gunflint & Mr. Harm, thank you for the video references, but I'd already looked at them a while back (if I have any questions about a gun anymore, I go to YouTube and see what's on there about them). The support group I need is one that will help me stop dragging these old relics home with me. I can't seem to help myself, when I see a decent old gun (and for little or no money!) I end up with it somehow.
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The U was a model code used by Remington.
The 1894 was P, the 1900 was Q, the Autoloading Shotgun was V, and the Repeating Shotgun was U.
Will And the code or the Model 17 was BO --
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Hmmm, my 1929(?) M17 action has no "BO" or even a serial number on the bottom of the action. The good folks at Remington seem to have been very inconsistent over the years.
Speaking of inconsistency, I also, popped the stock off of the M10 tonight and dropped the still assembled action into some nice garage-chilled diesel fuel for an extended soak to, hopefully, soften (& dissolve?) years of accumulated dirt and hardened lubricants (oh, if only I had a nice, warm, ultrasonic cleaner...). I then dragged the front half of this old turkey shooter over to my big lighted magnifier for a closer look at the hidden serial numbers reportedly out of sight on the bottom of the barrel. By moving the slide arm out of the way they can barely be seen, and.....this barrel is numbered to the action with the very same SN. If this is, indeed, a circa 1925 gun then why no date codes on the barrel? I'm perplexed.
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Lloyd,
Is the barrel address 2 lines or 3?
Are you sure it says "Remington Arms Co., Ilion, NY", and not "Remington Arms Co., Inc., Ilion, NY"?
Will
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Will:
It has only two lines of stampings, and does include the "Inc." (sorry, I missed that distinction earlier). So, according to the information Researcher provided on M-10 naming conventions, that indicates 1920 and on, right? I still don't understand why the barrel isn't date coded.
FWIW: the overnight soak in diesel has done wonders for it. I may not even need to tear it down now as it really wasn't that dirty, just "gummy" for lack of a better description (old gun oil and fine Colorado dust combined). It functions as smoothly now as I hoped it would. Not quite an M31, but not bad. With the stock still off of it, I'll scrub what I can with a small soft bristle brush, hit it with an air-drying solvent to drive out any traces of diesel, and then lube it a bit and call it good. No sense turning screws that don't need it.
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Different view. Storage in a dry climate has some upsides, it seems. Little to no corrosion anywhere that I can find (I wish the little M17 I found up in Maine looked this good after 90-years). The wood is even a bit better than I'm used to seeing. Like I mentioned earlier, minimal use and benign neglect in a dry climate. The big question now is what the heck am I going to do with it? Full-choke, 30-inch barreled 12-bores aren't normally called-for in my routines, and I don't know of any "Turkey Shoots" nearby.
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During the 1920s, Remington Arms Co., Inc. moved their Remington TRADE MARK logo off the action bar and put it on the side of the receiver along with the model number. Pretty soon they quit using the BO and moved the serial number to the side of the receiver as well. They were not very consistent on where they stamped things on the left side of the receivers either -- I suspect the serial numbers and logos on Model 10s did some similar moving during the 1920s, but I haven't studied it.
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I appreciate all of your help on this one Researcher, thank you so much, yet again.
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Lloyd, you could start a beer drinking league that has a trap shooting problem, since you now have a great gun for that kind of thing.
The trap shooting, I mean.
Best, Ted
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Ted: I don't know how a guy who really loves (and mostly shoots) double guns ended up with so-many old pump guns (about the only thing I don't have at the moment is a sub-gauge 520 variant). I guess they make for good entertainment during the gloomy winter months and keep me occupied. What will likely happen is that I'll run across some dainty little exotic side-by-side somewhere, that really rolls my socks down, and I'll need to raise a war-chest to finance it. It won't result in a yard sale, but I will likely move most of them to fund some other project.
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