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Tamid #395872 02/26/15 12:00 PM
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The rods have been coated with rubber so there is no marring in the barrels and felt at the end of the hinge to protect the muzzles.

If a thief comes prepared he will get into and take anything you have. A hodie and ventilator mask would defeat the pepper spray. I don' remember if it was on this site that I saw a picture where thiefs had cut a large hole in the side of a safe with an angle grinder. As Homelessjoe mentioned a crowbar, hammer and something to pacify the dogs should do the trick at my house.

Any thief makes it to the front of the case will have defeated two locks and two dogs and will also defeat the security of the case. However I'm banking on the thief thinking that old sxs shotguns have no value and would take the sheep mount hanging beside the case and the sterio instead.

Canadian gun laws for storage were set up with domestic violence in mind...so you can't mindlessly reach for a gun when you are mad at the significant other.

The glass on my case is shatter proof but there are many things in the gun room that could be used to break it.

The concern of bent barrels from trying to get the gun off the wall has been thought of but I think it is better than no gun.

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Hi Tamid, I've had additional time to think about your project.
Since you are already invested in your system, any of the suggestions to do something else would seem pointless.
Only a crazy idiot would install crude debilitating explosives in a home firearms display. You could probably share a cell after the neighbor kid gets maimed.

I like the barrel lock design. Hidden, cumbersome, and effective. After all, a shotgun is it's barrels. This is how I would manufacture the snap cap locks.

I would cut a 6mm wide and 3mm deep key slot 80 mm down the shaft from its tip. At the 60mm mark I would turn a continuous groove 6mm wide and 3mm deep around the shaft.

I would index the rod to some arbitrary degree, 45, 60, 90 or other, and cut another key slot back toward the breech end, starting at 70mm, and ending at 30mm.
The locking cartridge would act like the bolt of a rifle.
I would turn a sleeve of chamber size od, and bar size +1mm id, and then thread a 5mm set screw through the sleeve at 75mm from a turned rim/base. Protruding 2mm into the sleeve.

Now you have a lock, not unlike a rifle's bolt.
Push the cartridge onto the rod, turn it X degrees, and then pull it back to you. You'd destroy the barrels before anyone figured out that to remove the barrels, first you must push forward 20mm, rotate X degrees, and then pull the cartridge out.
The machining is very simple, you could choose any number of "keys" for turning the cartridge, and it would be innocuous when installed.

The force to pull the barrels off the rods and chokes would be considerable. Make sets in all the gauges if you want.

What took some time to describe, is very simple machining work.


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Hi Tamid some years ago I made some security rods for a gun importer to be used at an arms exhibition. They were not complicated at all and extremely effective versus their cost to make.
The device for each gun consisted of a metal plug in the shape of the correct size cartridge with a rod a little over the barrels length firmly anchored in the plug. At the muzzle the rod was threaded and went through a hole in a metal muzzle support bracket. The other side of the support bracket was a tapered nut with a couple of holes to accept pins from a removable tightening key with two spanner flats. When the nut was tightened firmly and the key removed it was impossible to grip the nut.
Just to make things a little harder I used a left hand thread as a brain teaser and case hardened the tapered nut so there was no chance of pliers griping it they would always slipped off, and when you have the correct length of rod for the barrels length you cut the surplus off just short of it exiting the nut so the rod could not be griped either.
I hope the drawing is of some help not the best I know but I did it rather quickly.



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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper

Only a crazy idiot would install crude debilitating explosives in a home firearms display. You could probably share a cell after the neighbor kid gets maimed.


I went back through this thread to see if anyone in fact had recommended planting crude debilitating explosives in a home firearms display. Since I don't see anything that crazy, I'm going to assume that ClapperZapper must have jumped to the conclusion that the Burglar Bomb is an explosive device. It is not. It is an extremely effective extra layer of protection that will make a burglar leave the building post haste, before he can figure out how to defeat locks, safes, etc. It would also make a thief think twice about coming back, and instead seek out an easier target. It was merely a suggestion to Tamid to enhance whatever he finally comes up with.

Just about anything we do to protect our homes and valuables can be defeated. This is especially true if the thief has prior knowledge of what he is up against, be it a safe, alarm system, guard dogs, or one of these Burglar Bombs. And all of them have disadvantages too. In the end, the final layer of security is a good insurance policy.


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