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Yes, that one is interesting. The recoil pad would have to go, too big. What's up with the strikers on that one?

Not sure what you mean about the strikers (firing pins?). But speaking of interesting, a VS 10 gauge SLE:

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Sarasqu...un_id=100542276

Look at this one;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=474748029

Starting at $700.00 and no reserve.

"It was made by Victor Sarasqueta, not the knockoffs, which was the best Basque maker of that time."

Kyrie, could you shed some light on this maker? Wasn't there other Sarasqueta family members building guns?

I asked that seller about what looks like a crack on the top left finger from the lock plate to the safety....that was almost 2 days ago...no answer yet.....

Model 4E, sold under the Stoeger name as a Zephyr Uplander. Work horse of a gun.

There were several other makers named Sarasqueta one of which, Juan Jos� Sarasqueta, was the older brother of Victor. Other makes named Sarasqueta included Felix Sarasqueta, Adolfo Sarasqueta, and Antonio Sarasqueta. Felix was, if memory serves(and it may not) have been the son of JJ and nephew of Victor. I don't know if thee was any relation between Adolfo, Antonio and the other Sarasquetas.

Thanks Kyrie.

At that purchase price it would be worth a restock to fit the new owner. A fitted sidelock in a price range nearly anyone could afford.

These Spanish sidelocks are killing me.

You're very welcome.

Guns with unadorned locks like those on the VS 4E were frequently purpose made as competition (mostly live pigeon) guns with the larger and heavier frames. Arrieta still does this:

Arrieta Imperial Tiro (601)

http://www.arrietashotguns.com/en/product/handmade-shotguns/imperial-tiro-601

In the grand scheme of things, these tend to be very expensive guns.

A few years ago I picked up one of these Stoeger imported VS model 4E guns in 16 gauge (for which I paid $600) and didn't realize until I had the gun in my hands that it was a pigeon gun. The gun has 1500 gram barrels and weighs almost eight pounds. Here are photos:

http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Kyrie_Ellison/slideshow/A_Temp/Victor%20Sarasqueta%204E?sort=6

So are you saying that guns with unadorned locks are more expensive than full scrolled actions? I thought you said earlier that you paid more for engraving as it's more labor intensive and that it drove the price point of a gun up.

Yes, why would one be potruding so far, and the other recessed? Spring issue, cleaning issue maybe?

Both those VS are very interesting to me, especially the 16 since another 16 is what I want currently. That Stoeger version is no shirk either from the look of it. Where were these deals when I was searching earlier and had the cash handy?

Sigh... No, I'm saying purpose built pigeon guns tend to be very expensive guns.